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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 6 points 15 hours ago

Can we just hit the baseline and have Democrats NOT vote against their party's interest?

Maybe I'm just cherry picking but policies in the past decade passed by a Democrat has been like 90% Democrats/ 0% Republicans approve.

But policies passed by a Republican is like 100% Republican / 20% Democrats approved.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

I hope AOC can take over for Bernie.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wanna win over people Dems? Stop pearl clutching and swear at the cunts like the motherfuckers they are.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

One of the only comments here to have any actual suggestions, and it's "use harsh language." Even then, though, do you want them to use harsh language sparingly or until they get thrown out of congress in session?

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Look, you need shock value to turn heads these days. That's why the manosphere succeeded the way it has. That's why the fascists in power got the support they got. It's all about speaking at a level that the people can relate to.

If you want to stick to Victorian norms of grammar and etiquette, you get nowhere.

Besides, foul language isn't a sure sign of stupidity:

https://www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Voters expect government officials to do their job..."

Officials:

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

Can you be more specific about what you think their job details?

[–] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 day ago

"self-flagellate".... No I want them to stop sitting on their asses, self fellating.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

We want to stand up to Trump's stock manipulation: but Nacy Pelosi keeps blocking bills making congressional insider trading illegal.

We want to stand up to Trump's support for multiple genocidal dictators, but Chuck Schumer keeps pushing for more weapons to Israel.

We want to make majauana legal, but Kamala Harris keeps touting how she had sent majauana users to jail.

In short, we want democratic leaders who stand for democratic values or at least who don't actively push policies counter to them.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Guillotine for president 2028.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago

*2025
Ftfy

Hell, 2016 would be even better.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

DNC: "Best we can do is approving of Trump's horrid cabinet picks, voting for internet censorship, and abandoning queer people because trans people are icky."

I'd be way more enthusiastic to vote and donate and advocate if Dems weren't just shooting the democracy they claim to protect in the foot and then handing Republicans the gun to keep it bleeding.

I want them to actually fight Trump. Or follow on the promises of arresting him from 2021 to now. Or enact policies that don't make people consider fascism because they're desperate and fed propaganda.

But that would cost money and anger the donators who back Trump and them, so controlled opposition it is!

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right right that's true, we should focus on the future. But if you're too blind to realize that most Washington Democrats are never going to help make things better, you need to look at the past more.

We got where we are for many reasons, which definitely include the actions of Democratic president and congresspeople over the last three decades. Those people brought us where we are, with Republican help of course, so we would be fools to expect any better from them going forward.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, this article is completely omitting, why Biden and Harris lost. It is not addressing that the current party elites are the same party elites like before the election. Biden and Harris life on politically in the DNC.

But it continues to simmer; data analyst Lakshya Jain argues that “Democrats are on the verge of a Tea Party-style, intra-party revolt.” He also identifies the anger as directed at Trump, not Biden.

“The numbers suggest that the fury is at least partly fueled by the Democratic base’s dissatisfaction with congressional leadership’s relatively conciliatory approach to Trump this time around, and their inability to stop him,” Jain writes.

It is the same "revolt" that was tried to prevent the party from loosing catastrophically to Trump by being a pro genocide pro wall-street party. It is the embracing of "bipartisanship" and peddling to "moderate Republicans" like Dick mass murder Cheney that is now voting alongside the Trump administration and rightfully despised. It is the same liars that kept pretending Biden was at his mental faculties when everyone could see videos of him wandering around blitzed out of his mind and gaslighting everyone who said Biden needs to drop out as "secret Trump supporters".

There will be no improvement without acknowledging what went wrong, who is responsible and most importantly tossing the responsible people out and letting a new generation take hold, one that does believe genocide, war crimes and capitalism sucking the blood out of everyone are indeed wrong and need to end.

[–] thanksforallthefish 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We want some real pipe-swinging motherfuckers. The Democrats are (mostly) not delivering, because they’re beholden to their big corporate donors.

Well, fuck you Democratic Party. It’s time to radicalize.

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If David Brooks and William Kristol can bring themselves to say "Abolish ICE" then it's time for the centrist Dems to take that stance and the left end of the party to debate in favor of RICOing that entity.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Well, don't think their dissent has anything to do with empathy, or compassion. They just don't like seeing a gravy train derailed by an overgrown child.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I do want them to self-flagellate…the useless bums they have currently in office, and replace them with people with gonads.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

The problem with that idea is that the Dems have been about the status quo for so long that it's literally why Trump won. People aren't voting Dems because they went the "don't rock the boat" route for so long.

The Dems need a reform.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

As a side note, I recently learned about what a giant piece of shit Jake Tapper is regarding his advocacy for Israel’s genocide as part of pretending to be a journalist. I don’t watch CNN, but for some reason I had the impression he was a commentator with some amount of integrity.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world -5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Um.. a good contingent of those voters didn't vote. They did this to themselves.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 15 hours ago

More like, a good contingent of those voters voted unconditionally for these people, who they had every reason to believe would act like this. They did this to themselves.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

Pretty good article. And they're completely right.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Dems and Republicans want the same thing. A kleptocracy.

Why would Dems stand up to anyone writing their bonus checks?

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

A little bit late. We now have a one-party dictatorship, which will one day collapse on its own. But not in this decade.

[–] arin@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dems are dead we need a new party under Bernie Sanders

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Have you considered listening to what Bernie Sanders suggests, instead? Because his plan is not abandoning the dems in the slightest, though he does support if an established dem switches to independent.