this post was submitted on 26 Dec 2024
251 points (93.4% liked)

News

23723 readers
4898 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 172 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (34 children)

Bring back the headphone jack. Dumping the 3.5mm jack is what brought this on.

It is simple as that. I do not want to worry about the headphones being charged and losing another charging case and making more room for another thing to charge where i charge everything else.

I do not want that at all.

It was the dumbest thing to make me need batteries for headphones. And I don't do any of this stuff that is in the article. But BRING BACK THE JACK.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 34 points 1 week ago

I am still salty about this. I was generally neutral about Apple until the headphone thing, and now I just loathe the iPhone for forcing the bullshit of Bluetooth headphones in the world.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People have been loud and obnoxious since long before Audio jacks were a thing, and they’re going to continue being loud and obnoxious long after your grandkids ask “what’s an audio jack?”

Your glasses are nostalgia-tinted. The jack or its absence didn’t prevent or cause this.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah I mean boom boxes existed in the 1980s.

load more comments (32 replies)
[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 113 points 1 week ago (6 children)

How do people not realize this?

Take your phone off speaker phone. It isn't a difficult concept. Entitled assholes. Keep your voice down so you don't irritate the hell out of others. I don't want to hear about your intestines. (BTW not aiming this at the op just at those that can't figure this out.)

[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's Apple's fault.

They took away easy to use 3.5mm headphones.

Bluetooth headphones are a lot more complicated to use. And 3hr battery life earbuds won't help u on a 12 hr flight.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

A cheap adapter and you can use regular headphones again

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 111 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Calling out rude people needs to be normalized. Stop being polite to those who aren't.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Have fun with that...

I have called out rude people both politely and bluntly. Always is a conflict. So, just prepared to get into it.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Lots of people are intentionally rude, hoping someone says something because they're addicted to rage and want to be "attacked" for something they feel is acceptable.

They'll immediately escalate, and especially in America you have no idea who has a gun. Making a reasonable request can be met with screaming and if you respond in kind then they feel "threatened".

Doesn't really matter what happens at trial, a crazy person that was looking for conflict just pulled their gun. The next 5 minutes matter more than the next five decades.

This means their current behavior becomes normalized, so now everyone is acting like it, people respond to anything with aggression because acting mentally unstable works. It makes the other person go away until you do it to someone even more unhinged.

A polite request to someone like that is a sign of weakness and guarantees an escalation, so even reasonable people stop being polite and start with direction.

The craziest are directing society.

It's not new and it's not the first time, but it rarely works out well for society.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago

I do by joining into the conversation. People get offended but shut up, walk away, or call the person back later. In an airport or worse yet, an airplane I don't worry about the conflict. On a subway, different story.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Take your phone off speaker phone.

Kids and idiots base their phone usage off vapid camera-ready idiots on reality TV whose entire usage is to play for an audience. They don't understand that holding their phone like a slice of pizza

  • is against the design
  • makes it harder to hear
  • ruins the noise cancellation
  • looks absolutely ridiculous
  • may be delicious. Try it!

And so it's "monkey see, monkey do."

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] ElderReflections@fedia.io 77 points 1 week ago

Obvioisly if someone's on speaker phone it's because they want you to join in the conversation. It's your duty to gather round and give your loud & uninformed opinions

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 72 points 1 week ago (4 children)

~~America~~ Ignorant, selfish pricks, stopped using headphones.

Let's be real. You have to be pretty self absorbed to not realize how ignorant it is to walk around playing your music out loud or having a conversation on speakerphone instead of putting the damn phone to your ear.

And its not just flights. Its busses, restaurants, waiting rooms, forest trails.

[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I blame apple. It's a direct result of them fucking with 3.5mm jack.

It used to be simple - plug in wired headphones.
Now I have to have Bluetooth headphones with shitty battery life and skills to connect them.

Guess what - my mom was able to use wired, she cannot handle wireless it's too complicated for her.

Thank you apple assholes. All because u wanted to sell another product - people can't use headphones anymore.

My mother does the speakerphone thing but she's also half deaf from a lifetime of loud blue collar work. It's never as clear cut as you think

[–] Rice_Daddy@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't think there's a big difference between using the speakerphone than talking to someone next to you.

[–] Antiproton@programming.dev 6 points 6 days ago

People who habitually use speaker phones do not understand the concept of "inside voice" that everyone else learned in 1st grade.

And those people should be sent to The Hell of Infinite Screaming Babies.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh there's an easy solution. Talk loudly right next to someone carrying on a conversation out loud on the phone.

[–] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Join the conversation.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago

If it's on speaker they want you to join the conversation, so don't feel shy about joining and taking the conversation where you want it to go.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

New iphones come with a USB-C cable.

That’s it.

They formerly came with cable, charger, and wired ear buds appropriate to the phone.

Airlines distribute 3.5mm jack ear buds, if any at all.

It’s already a potential failure point expecting people to remember to carry an accessory allowing them to listen privately even if one is provided with the device on an incredibly common connection type.

But now they’re not included, you have to buy specialty USB-C ear buds or expensive airpods. More points of failure.

Haven’t even touched on the asshole factor of individuals just not giving an F and listening to their devices on speaker without regard to their fellow humans.

Every single flight I’ve been on there has been at least one individual VoIP calling, video watching, or gaming on their cell phone speaker that needed to be told to stop by the cabin crew.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] robocall@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I can't stand going to a restaurant and having to hear a child's tablet playing a video.

[–] poo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

It's a thing that inconsiderate people and just plain bad parents do

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

It only takes one asshole in a crowded subway car to ruin it for everyone. I like to read on the subway, but they're basically telling me that if I want to drown out their tiktok videos, I need to bring something with me with my own audio to listen to over headphones, just to not hear them.

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Make America feel shame again.

[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

I blame apple for fucking with 3.5mm jack

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

People in this country are shit pigs and they resent anyone that tells them that obvious truth.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why does that article feel so disjointed? Tgis paragraph was especially random:

“I engaged once with a guy who had a different opinion. He was like, ‘I don’t think so. I don’t think it’s bothersome.’”

No explanation or attribution for the quote. Just sandwiched in there

It's the text equivalent of a sixth finger.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I wonder if drug dealers also do this.

(Henry's phone rings with a machine gun ringtone. He answers it on speakerphone without a second thought.)

  • Yo, Peter! What's up, man?
  • Henry, we need to talk about the new shipment of snow.
  • Yeah, what about it?
  • Tom's got a fresh batch. Just crossed the border this morning. But we need to be careful, last time it was cut with too much crap.
  • Yeah, Tom is such a greedy bastard. What do you say we skip the payment part, and just paint the walls with his brains?
  • I thought you would never ask. I'll bring the shotgun. See you at the train station at 6.
  • Cool see ya there. Bye.
  • Bye.

(Henry looks at the bewildered people around him.)

  • What are you all looking at?
[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You jest, but I've spent a year+ homeless, often around fentanyl/meth addicts/dealers.

I've heard conversations very similar to this, albeit with more slang, many times, either just on speaker phone, or with the volume turned up so loud without the speakerphone on that you can hear the whole convo anyway...

I've heard this many times, on buses packed with people, at encampments, in shelters, at bus stops on the street, etc.

They don't look around bewildered and surprised afterward. They act jubilant, cocksure.

They don't give a fuck.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] figjam@midwest.social 13 points 1 week ago

My steam deck has a headphone jack.

load more comments
view more: next ›