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Some Republicans worry a Biden replacement could make the race 'dramatically different' for Trump (www.businessinsider.com)

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[–] takeda@lemmy.world 85 points 4 months ago (24 children)

Is there a good replacement? To me it sounds like there is a push for Biden to step down without a good alternative.

The more and more this continues the more I'm thinking that it is the rich owners of media companies trying to destroy Biden chances, because of his stance of taxing the rich. It feels like that whole noise is being done by media in bad faith, also they are very silent about trump in Epstein files.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago

Or just about everything Trump had to say in the debate in general. Absolutely the words of a madman with every answer.

[–] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I too am thinking this, Biden has picked an amazingly effective team that is making big changes for the positive for the average person, and has made some key strategic victories despite the courts and Congress being so against him.

He's old, he needs his nap time more often than a spry 35 year old, his speech difficulties suck - but the actions his administration makes are not ignorable to the rich, and so I think the rich attempt to make them ignorable to the masses with their control of capital

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You don’t have to convince me, you have to convince Joe voter in Penn’s woods who voted W then Obama and then Trump and then Biden. Joe from Pennsylvania measures his vote by his gut and not so much the issues. He picks a president, not a team.

And right now all Joe’s hearing is how Biden is more senile than anyone ever thought.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And right now all Joe’s hearing is how Biden is more senile than anyone ever thought.

Do you think that's an unfair assessment?

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you think that Joe thinks this is an unfair assessment?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think he's in any condition to make such an assessment.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

And yet, he must. He is the one signing his vote.

[–] Sparkles@fedia.io 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Someone on Imgur posted a slew of headlines from the Clinton candidacy in 2016. Many of them are eerily similar to the ones that have been dominating msm lately.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Turns out they were right. Wish people would have listened back then.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is there a good replacement? To me it sounds like there is a push for Biden to step down without a good alternative.

Whitmer. Buttigieg. Newsom. Harris. Ignore this and repeat the question like no one has answered it.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Newsom is not a good alternative. He is as corpo as it gets, refuses to take meaningful action against PG&E (the company is literally a convicted killer), and calls tax on the wealthy "bullshit".

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

He's neither Trump nor Biden.

This is the Democratic Party we're talking about. They're going to give us a corpo stooge no matter what.

The question wasn't about which candidate I like, just which ones could run instead of Biden and have a chance against Trump.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What's wrong with Kamala? Seems like Progressives have largely gotten over her record as AG. That's why they hid her in the first place.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Have they gotten over it? I didn’t know anyone had. Nor have I heard of any initiative she successfully handled

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The media misses the hourly 'tRump opened his mouth, and here's what came out' coverage they were providing. It was the most return for the least effort. Find a few talking heads to argue what it means for [rolls dice] 'seniors' to fill a few hours of air.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It's like they had that meeting in The Boys and the argument was successful

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Man they really know what they're doing with this aren't they? Keep sowing those seeds of fear. Making Democrats try to panic.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

Yep... they're making Democrats panic. It wasn't Biden losing a debate to Trump where he was already trailing in the polls, or that he struggled to complete a sentence without sounding like he had severe mental decline. It is the media who made Biden do that. Maybe CNN drugged him before the debate. Now that you mentioned it... I'm starting to wonder if the media is making Biden support genocide. It has to be the media though, no way it could be that Biden isn't the best person for the job.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not too sure about that...

It seems Gavin and Harris are polling much worse than Biden...

If the DNC and superdelegates are going to replace Biden, it is expected to happen at the convention.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I think this isn't specifically the Democrats that are pushing it, it is rich people who own the media, because Biden threatens to tax them more.

This outrage awfully reminds me of Hilary's emails.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not rich and think Biden should step down. I don't want Trump to get re-elected. I didn't want Trump to win in 2016, but there were Democrats like you that didn't listen to reality either.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And whom do you propose as a replacement?

That’s the fundamental problem with politics: 99% of the time it’s about what people don’t want. It’s so much easier than being for something or someone.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Bernie? I mean, from where I sit he's always a seemed like your best candidate.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah, no kidding. Donnie is clearly mentally unfit; it's just hard to get anyone to talk about that when you have Biden in the mix and they'd rather talk about Biden.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

We need to support Joe Biden and ranked voting

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Donald Trump has gleefully celebrated growing calls for Joe Biden to end his reelection bid, confident that he can defeat any Democrat who challenges him — but some members of the GOP aren't so sure.

Graham added that Trump's focus now should be on picking a strong running mate to "add value in 2024, expand the map, prosecute the case against the liberals."

Trump has not yet announced a vice president pick in his campaign, but Graham noted that South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, North Dakota Gov.

Fox News reported a House Republican, who spoke to the outlet on the condition of anonymity, said a younger and potentially more popular candidate on the Democratic ticket would spell for "a tougher race" for Trump.

"Virtually any Democrat that potentially replaces Biden has an exponentially better chance of defeating Trump," the senior House GOP aide told Fox News.

"Crooked Joe Biden should ignore his many critics and move forward, with alacrity and strength, with his powerful and far reaching campaign," Trump's post, published Saturday, read.

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A second House Republican and a senior House GOP aide echoed those concerns to Fox News, with the aide saying explicitly that Biden's continued candidacy is Trump's best bet for reelection.

"Virtually any Democrat that potentially replaces Biden has an exponentially better chance of defeating Trump," the senior House GOP aide told Fox News. "Biden staying at the top of the ticket is the best-case scenario for a Republican trifecta."

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I've been saying it since last election.

If either Biden or trump stepped down, it would guarantee their party wins.

It's insane we're heading into an election where regardless of who wins, roughly two thirds of the country would be unhappy with the results.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 4 months ago

Generic Democrat polls higher than basically any Democrat you give a name to. People like the idea of a Democrat but have issues with the individual likely candidates. See also the amount of delegates 'uncommitted' got over the candidates actually running in the primary in states that held one with that option.

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