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[–] WiildFiire@lemmy.world 141 points 1 year ago (11 children)

And by trans rights they mean "we don't wanna be fucking murdered for being trans"

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[–] solstice@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago (6 children)

My hot take: I find transgenderism to be weird. I don't get it. It weirds me out. I suspect I'm incapable of understanding.

Here's the thing though: it doesn't matter what I think. None of my fucking business. They can do what they want. Why is this a national issue?!? I find it weird, yes, but building a political ideology around hating them for it, that's WAY weirder. And more dangerous.

Americans love freedom right? I'm having trouble thinking of anything more free than waking up a man and going to sleep a woman. Yes, I find it odd. But I'll fight to the death their right to practice their flavor of odd.

[–] flucksy_bango@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm trans and asexual. It would be insane for me to take a stance against people having sex. I don't enjoy it and the machinations surrounding it confuses me. However, I don't care that people have sex even though I don't understand it.

Turns out a lot of Americans don't love freedom. They love only their freedom, which is corrupted in my opinion.

Eta: "I'm having trouble thinking of anything more free than waking up a man and going to sleep a woman."

I didn't read this correctly the first time and now I'm moved. That happened to me, it did feel like I was set free.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 73 points 1 year ago (4 children)

One side wants basic human rights. The other side wants you to die. We are not the same.

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[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 60 points 1 year ago (5 children)

TIL wanting basic human rights is "aggressive". Ridiculously weak attempt at rage baiting.

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[–] deadtom@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You either support the hate, vitriol and murder against trans people, or you don't. There is no middle ground.

The idea that demanding trans people be treated with the dignity and respect other classes of people expect as being "aggressive" is just a pathetic way to try to deflect from their desire to support the side they know they cannot morally defend. It allows them to pretend "both sides" are at fault in order to deflect for the hate they functionally support. Only a stark moron could look at the current events relative to the treatment of trans people and think they are somehow demanding greater rights than the rest of us have.

Just another flavor of the "both sides" bullshit that has permeated politics; but only one side has abandoned democracy and staged an insurrection while collectively acting like the victims in the aftermath.

If you are a "centrist" and this seems like an appealing position to support, maybe you should take a long, long look in the mirror.

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[–] tinfox@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (53 children)

The fact that so many "centrists" have commented on this post to espouse their point of view in long diatribes of meaningless dribble has solidified my thinking on centrists.

Centrists are cluelessly dumb.

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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The person who made this comic is dumber than the strawman they're portraying here.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Let me put it this way... My take on the whole matter is this: we're all human. As humans, we should all have the same opportunities for happiness and misery as everyone else. The rights to exist, vote, an education, get married to whomever we love and later resent and divorce, then miss and have a few regrettable late night drunken confessions to an answering machine.

No matter what color you are, what hardware you have in your pants, who you find attractive, or what your pronouns are, you should have the rights and ability to do the same things everyone else can.

I believe in human rights.... As in, the same for all humans. When we no longer have the need to differentiate by some adjective, like trans rights or gay marriage or whatever, and it's just human rights and marriage, regardless of the individuals involved, then maybe we won't be a piece of shit society. Anyone railing against the rights of other humans based on some quirk of their personality (and bluntly, the idiosyncrasies of your gender and identity are minor compared to all the shit that's the same between you and other humans), is simply discrimination. We are all more alike than different.

So let's not be assholes to eachother. Okay?

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[–] whispering_depths@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

basically one side is nazis and the other is against Nazis. if you're ok with nazi's, you're a fucking idiot Nazi. Must suck.

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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] corstian@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Anytime someone starts with "it's just a fact" you can be pretty darn sure that whatever is coming isn't just a fact.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"I'm not racist, but" followed 100% of the time by something racist.

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[–] WorldieBoi@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The left one is the normal one actually. I would be fucking aggressive too if my rights would be violated.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not against you in principle, it's just that I'm very selfish and afraid, and therefore against changing a world in which you're oppressed.

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[–] VicentAdultman@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

There's no such a thing as neutrality. French didn't get the right to education being neutral, neither anyone conquered any right being neutral. Being neutral means being condescending with the current status quo.

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[–] regalia 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Enlightened centrist be like: "Why don't we find a middle ground and only kill like half the trans people?"

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[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 22 points 1 year ago

Aggressive and right is very different from aggressive and wrong.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The left side is a central position. The opposite of the right side would be a bias towards LGBTQ+ people. The centrist on the comic is middle right.

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[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How the fuck is asking for basic rights aggressive compared to murder? This is fucking stupid

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TheLordHumungus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Don't bother trying. You do not have the smooth brain muscle to do the mental gymnastics to explain that posts.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The very notion of 2 sides is a massive scam.

Given the sheer complexity of human affairs, the massive number of combinations of opinions possible on every subject that's politically important (merelly Ecology, Taxes and Religion, if they only had 2 choices, would yield 9 different combinations of opinions) and the fact that on most subjects there are in fact more than two possible choices (just look at Religion!), it's mathematically impossible that there are 2 and only 2 political sides.

What it is is a simulacrum of Democracy, were people cast votes but the system that allocates power based on those votes is matemathically rigged to produce a power duopoly, which is far easier to control than genuine Democracies with Proportional Vote were parliaments much better reflect the vastness of political opinions in society.

The whole "centrist" thinking is really people trying to mentally solve the mental tension between having been culturally brainwashed to believe "there are 2 and only 2 sides" whilst actually having political opinions which do not match either side - instead of challenging what they've been convinced "must be so" (even though it's illogical) they try to invent a place for themselves which still related to the "2 sides".

Let me put things this way: if you really feel the need for 2 sides and yet you moved beyond the "2 sides you're told represent every political opinion there is", then think of yourself on the "Thinking side" as opposed to the "Tribalist, flag-waving parrot side".

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