Switching away from Chrome is something that is always worth repeating, but just FYI this happened last September and isn't "new". If you're on Chrome and are only just now realizing this, it's been your reality for the last 5 months.
this post was submitted on 19 Feb 2024
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The Federated Learning of Cohorts and now the Topics API are part of a plan to pitch an "alternative" tracking platform, and Google argues that there has to be a tracking alternative—you can't just not be spied on.
lmao what the fuck kind of dystopia are we living in
It'd make the world a better place, but a big company would make slightly less money, therefore it's unthinkable to even attempt it.
See also: vehicle emissions standards
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So this means that the internet could have always worked fine without invasive cookies and everything they told us about it being impossible was just a lie.
Cookies serve important purposes for doing things like keeping you signed in as you navigate through multiple pages on a site.
The issue is that most parts of the internet were developed by people more interested in all the cool stuff you could do with it, and not at all concerned about the potential misuse by large multi billion dollar corporations.
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Google's utopia is humanity's dystopia.
"Did any user in the world want a user-tracking and ad platform baked directly into their browser? Probably not, but this is Google, and they control Chrome, and this probably still won't make people switch to Firefox."
Their idea is that is hides all the user info from advertising companies. Downside is your browser is an ad slot machine.
Which is best?
Tracked or ad machine?
I'm more surprised people aren't talking about the fact that since it's running on the client side, someone would just figure out a way to hack and block all the ads even easier.
This also further consolidates Google's advertising power. Block all their competitors from gathering the information and give them a neutered "topics list". Google still maintains every ability to allow their own products and ad platform to bypass and use the full information.
They are an ad company first. But yep now google will be the main advertiser in town
Because the entire design of it is to mathematically prevent you from having the option to hack or block the ads. THe way to get around it is to... not use chrome.
It hides user information from companies which aren’t Google. The best is not using anything Chromium based.
Extensions require APIs from the browser to work, and Google is going to nerf the APIs which allow for ad blocking. Extensions don’t have unfettered access to the DOM. FF used to be like that, but Chrome never allowed that.
You're thinking about it the wrong way. How does this directly and noticably harm the user experience of the average user of chrome? If it doesn't then there's no incentive for them to switch.
Not everyone knows about this kind of thing or cares. Firefox has to be significantly better in obvious ways and market that to grow their market share.
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WELL I HOPE YOU FUCKS LIKE SOME WEIRD ASS PORN AND SHITPOSTS
I'm gonna spin up a Windows VM and see how many porn sites and open chrome sessions i can spawn
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What's with Lemmy and reposting really old things?
This is the Internet Explorer of forums.
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Does this only affect Chrome or all Chromium based browsers? Are Brave and Edge going to be implementing this too?
Just Chrome in this instance, as it spies for Google. Any anti ad blocking features go though to all chromium based browsers and it is better to switch Firefox. If that browser disappears we won't have a good alternative anymore.
It is better to switch to Firefox. But chromium forks can generally do whatever they want, it's just a matter of maintenance burden. e.g. nothing is stopping a Chromium fork like Brave from running a manifest v2 compatible appstore, but it'll cost money to make, maintain, and operate, plus you have less discoverability as an app developer when using a smaller app store.
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Just Chrome
Lemmy pushes hard for Firefox, but Vivaldi has not implemented this and will likely hold out as long as possible on it.
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Duck duck go has become a pretty good viable alternative to google using it full time now.
I’ve been using it as my main search engine for around a year now. I accidentally used google today to look up “best screwdriver sets” and the results were all ads instead of results with screwdriver set reviews. I put the same thing in DuckDuckGo and immediately got relevant results.
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Another beautiful day of ditching chrome for Firefox a long time ago
I used to use the good browser. But then they changed what the good browser was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me.
ITLL HAPPEN TO YOU
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It's also already built into Google Play Services. Remember this when they claim a monopoly is good for "security" reasons.
Amazing how Google and Apple differ on so much, but in this respect they are in total agreement...
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It's getting harder to remain compassionate towards people who keep using chrome.
Are you serious? You can't be compassionate toward people who use a certain browser? It's probably because they don't understand/know/care. 🤷♂️ Educate them.
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next up: every page requires shitty chrome or login with google.
then the big shrug and all continue using chrome, iphone, amazon and the other evils.
if you are using any of the above YOU are the problem.
thoughts and prayers. wasch mich, aber mach mich nicht nass.
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Only a matter of time when Chromium operating subsystem start to be incompatible with Firefox.
So, all those years creating "web standards" are for nothing, as turned out with too many standards no one is able to implement them, leaving only one existing browser to still operate. We won't even know if websites are compatible with a standard anymore, because Chrome interpretation might me different from any other.
So, all those years creating “web standards” are for nothing...
Oh it was for something! It allowed Google to take over using Microsoft's "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" philosophy.
What Google is doing now is exactly what Microsoft did back in the Netscape Navigator / Internet Explorer days.
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Mozilla is making a great pivot to integrate AI into Firefox. Totally what people want. /s
... with features like local-only (i.e. privacy-respecting) language translation. Good.
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The Librewolf project is up to date Firefox core with some hardening and the telemetry going back to Mozilla removed - good stuff.
I was just thinking about it and I had switched to Firefox back when I left Reddit over the whole API thing and joined Lemmy.
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