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I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I'm just being lazy.

I don't have a car, I don't have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

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[–] Alchalide@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago
[–] maks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People in this thread seems to live near big cities, which isn't really representative of the whole european population.

I live in rural france, the closest grocery store since I was born is 20km away (20min drive, no bus), and I moved 3 times - still about 20km.

Lots of people I know would love a store to be 3km away

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

My girlfriend lives in a rural area. When we go groceries we consider it an outdoor activity. It's like 4km away from her house

[–] Green_Mouse@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have a bunch of medium and small shops very close to my house, a market, and a few supermarkets about 30-40 minutes away.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Usually walk once a week to a grocery store 2.25 km away to stock up, but I'll supplement that with a trip every other day to the smaller grocery store 0.5 km away. I don't own a car and walk/scooter most places and I'd say that's a decent trek. I mostly walk it instead of taking my scooter because I go with my girlfriend and we'll talk, also can carry more back, and it gets us our steps which we like to track.

If it was just me and it was 30C I'd probably just take my scooter or the bus which is decent for getting there most times.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The nearest store is about 200 m away, or about 30–40 seconds away by bike. 🤷‍♂️

3 km is quite the distance to carry a big load of groceries in 30°C weather, yes indeed. That's not being lazy.

[–] Wutchilli@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

About 1,5 km for daily things and for more i take the bike vor public transport

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

2 miles. I drive it. There are shops nearby but they're a bit pricey

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I'm American. I regularly walk to the shop that's 1.75 km, won't drive it because it's too close.

The closest Real Grocery is 2.5km, that I take electric bike. Same for the Whole Foods that's much farther (5.5km) but that I consider an adventure ride and certainly not a walk. The groceries would melt by the time I got home if I walked.

All of these my husband drives to, and I think that's more typical. I have hangups about driving short distances.

[–] GhostXMonster@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have shop few meters away from my home, but I only go there, when I forgot to buy something or just quickly need snacks for a movie or it's bad weather, but usually I just buy everything from other grocery store which is 2 km away, but I like their food selection more and they got cheaper prices. Sometimes I also walk to big supermarket which is 4 km away.

3 km doesn't seem much for me or most of my friends,some of them even own a car and still walk 2-4 km to the grocery shop, instead of driving, but some people I know, would rather drive a car or take a bus.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

NYC. I walk a round trip of 3k for groceries twice a week. Not unusual to walk 5k per day.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Hunter-gatherers used to forage in a radius up to 10k 😁

[–] Codpiece@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

1600 metres, but I’m not walking to do the weekly shop. Or 900 metres if I want to pay extortionate amounts of money for probably out of date items.

[–] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 2 points 1 week ago

3km is kinda far, even with a bicycle, I have a small shop down the stairs and a medium supermarket at 5 min walk

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I live in Los Angeles and just happen to have a grocery store within easy walking distance. Like 0.5 km. But I don't, because the old nice little convenience store got turned into stupid Whole Foods. Or Mold Foods, as we started calling it after trying some of their groceries. Now I drive a mile to where I can get fresher produce and dairy, and paper towels that don't disintegrate with the first touch of liquid. Or we get our groceries delivered.

[–] rwdf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

500 meters give or take.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Depends how many you're shopping for. My nearest supermarket is about a kilometre away and if I'm going there I'll always walk. That's a grand distance even with a heavy shop.

I'd do 3 if I was just buying for myself but it's at the upper limit depending on weight, especially in 30C (I presume dry heat because fuck that shit otherwise).

[–] erytau@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

In a 300-meter radius I have two large stores that I visit often, one super large 1 km away, and lots of small ones. Plus there are plenty of fast-food places all around. If I'm cooking something and realize I don't have an ingredient it takes like 7 minutes on foot to get it and be back in my kitchen. So I have never felt the need to have a car.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My nearest grocery store is 0.4km away point to point on gmaps, it's an 8 min walk in one direction, entirely via pedestrian only areas with no road crossings on flat road. I consider this to actually be a bit far, as in the previous city I lived in I had a convenience store 3 min walk away.

I think your friend is messing with you.

[–] GreyShuck@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

It is 2.4km to my nearest shop (and most of that to reach a bus stop, as it happens). I have walked there from time to time, but I wouldn't do an actual grocery shop there anyway: we have the weekly groceries delivered.

I have brought a full grocery shop home in a large rucksack that kind of distance, and more, in the past when on holiday, but I wouldn't want to do it regularly.

I have also known a couple of other people who do that kind of distance with a huge rucksack for a monthly top up of specific things that their local shops don't carry, but they are both weird in several ways other ways. Good weird, but still weird. This is not something that the majority of people that I have known would even consider.

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