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"We need to stop trusting the experts," Kennedy told Tucker Carlson.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. appeared on the latest episode of Tucker Carlson’s podcast on Monday and it’s filled with the ramblings of a man completely detached from reality.

Kennedy falsely suggested vaccines cause autism, more or less endorsed the idea that Anthony Fauci should go to prison, and says that AI will allow the FDA to approve new drugs very quickly. It’s quite a mess.

These absolutely unhinged ideas wouldn’t be such a problem if this were any other fringe lunatic appearing on the podcast of a racist former Fox News host. But Kennedy happens to be the Secretary of Health and Human Services, a man who’s been given enormous power over America’s entire healthcare system thanks to Donald Trump.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Just what we need another dumbfuck mixing chemicals to ki.. er cure us

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 60 points 2 days ago

Republicans: "The vaccines were approved too quickly—they're not safe!"

Also Republicans:


Sidenote: the vaccines were based on research that had been worked on for decades.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Um, maybe this is something I'm too Canadian too understand, but if you are not going to trust the experts, who are you supposed to trust?

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

AI and money of course. Mostly money.

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

The FDA is already run by a hallucinating entity in fairness; so the impact should be less severe than other areas LLMs are introduced for decision making.

[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, he wants to trust algorithms known to make shit up, over scientists who get paid by big pharma to lie? /s

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

scientists who get paid by big pharma to lie?

Low key, unironically. The FDA has a disturbing history of approving certain medications and treatments before they've been safely tested and restricting certain medications and treatments because they're politically polarized. Elon's brain chip keeps getting ignored by regulators. Weight loss drugs and smoking alternatives keep getting special treatment. Meanwhile, mild narcotics and modern contraceptives are constantly bottled up by partisan regulators.

The joke of all this is RFK Jr effectively doubling down on the politicized system under the cover of "Computer Said So".

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Me, a retail health care consumer: "Are we talking about preventative treatments like vaccinations? Or mild narcotics like marijuana? Or contraceptives, like Plan B?"

RFK Jr: "Arrest that man."

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This was quite literally his conspiracy theorists groups' entire complaint! Wtf

[–] Laser@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago

Your mistake is looking for consistency when it's actually just people and bots pushing false narratives. It's not an honest discussion where participants are bound to the rules of logic; they're just exploiting the fact that you think they're engaging in discourse and behave accordingly.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I asked Copilot if my new medication that cures 100% of pancreatic cancer by giving 100% of the patients liver cancer would be approved, and it told me that it would receive 'conditional approval'. So, that's good.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Tell me you don't know how AI works without telling me you don't know how AI or drug testing works.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Made Fast, made safe, made effective.

Pick two*.

^*safe is not valid if fast is chosen^

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sugar pills and saline are decently safe and can be made pretty fast

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Suglets are delicious. Especially sprayed with amphetamines.

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[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I dunno, the Covid vaccine got prioritized and through the process pretty fast.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The first mRNA vaccine for covid was synthesized within a month of the national emergency declaration. But there was about a year of trials and approvals before it was allowed to be mass distributed.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Which is still blindingly fast. It got EUA or emergency use authorization. Most drugs take 5-10y of trials not including the decade+ of basic R+D to reach approval.

A large reason for that speed was other mRNA vaccines in trials safely for a few decades and the adenovirus being in use for other vaccines already.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not instantly though. They did the work, they just did it as fast as they possibly could.

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[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 10 points 2 days ago

It's only risking people's health... What could go wrong..

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

Why is this man so dead set on making the worst decisions? God…

[–] tamman2000@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

At this point I'm not going to be looking to the US institutions for medical recommendations. I'll be looking at Canada and the UK.

And I'm fortunate enough to be day trip range to canada, so as long as the border stays open I'll be able to get vaccines.

[–] HorikBrun@kbin.earth 21 points 3 days ago

Every day, I see headlines that make me wonder how The Onion hasn't gone out of business.

I mean, how do you even compete?

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you forget for a second about all the deaths and suffering this ghoul is responsible for, you have to admit this is very funny

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Ghoul is the correct term.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So far I haven't seen AI that can affect real world physical objects which is a significant part of testing. I have a few guesses... Either he has a bunch of pull-shit he wants to sell that would never be FDA approved, he took a lot of money from AI companies, he thinks that AI these is like Star Trek and shit, or he's a fucking idiot. My guess is that it's a combination of all of these.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (5 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

task specific protein folding

Gives you a model that can be tested in clinical trials. It doesn't give you the results of clinical trials.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That sentence is everything wrong with the world.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If he's so confident he and his family can take them first

Confidence without expertise is like baking a cake and saying you're not sure if there was shit in the batter.

He's disconnected from reality by his wealth and power excluding him from consequences to his actions and beliefs, and disconnect from morality by the same leading to corruption and immorality.

He's the billionaire narcissist confidently taking his sub down to see the Titanic and bringing us all down with him.

[–] orionsbelt@midwest.social 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

is he attempting to smile or laugh in that photo? it’s so disturbing.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Probably trying to look at a solar eclipse.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

New Drug: Worm Eggs.

Effects: Allows worms to hatch in brain which turn populace into dumb fucks

Eligibility: Everyone, delivered at birth to stave off personal growth.

AI: APPROVED!

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Y’know whenever I hear someone talking about the tremendous benefits of turning decision-based processes over to AI, i think to myself, “Self,” i thinks, “that there is one of the stupidest motherfuckers alive today. Or a young programmer.”

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

What the fuck is this horror show!!!!

[–] Idontevenknowanymore@mander.xyz 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyn

Swedish nicotine pouches. Very hip.

Or he just likes chewing on paper like his hero donald fucking trump

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Someone who clearly brushes his teeth once a month at most.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

And never flosses.

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[–] catty@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I can code this "ai" up for him:

if (drug.name == "ivermectin") {
    drug.approved = true;
}

// hell, even:
drug.approved = (drug.name == "ivermectin")
[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe that RFK jnr is clearly far far far smarter than the average multibillion dollar international pharmaceutical giant employed specialists. (sarcasm).

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

RFK is the Right's idea of an intelligent person.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

How many people are going to die before they stop that utterly stupid idea?

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Well a whole new genre of potential apocalypses has been unlocked then

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