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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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"TheFutureIsDesigned" bluechecks thusly:

You: takes 2 hours to read 1 book

Me: take 2 minutes to think of precisely the information I need, write a well-structured query, tell my agent AI to distribute it to the 17 models I've selected to help me with research, who then traverse approximately 1 million books, extract 17 different versions of the information I'm looking for, which my overseer agent then reviews, eliminates duplicate points, highlights purely conflicting ones for my review, and creates a 3-level summary.

And then I drink coffee for 58 minutes.

We are not the same.

For bonus points:

I want to live in the world of Hyperion, Ringworld, Foundation, and Dune.

You know, Dune.

(Via)

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

E: sorry slight spoilers for old and popular science fiction series. (You'd think they would have picked some more positive but less well known transhumanist science fiction books with nice societies, or pick specifics they liked but nope).

The Foundation is a horrible place to live, it is a frontier city created under false pretenses where you live under constant threat of a crisis, manipulated from afar by the second foundation, while 'Rome' falls apart around them. Billions die.

Hyperion is a horrible place to live, the main hegemonic force is a hypercolonialist empire that destroys all variety, kills the dolphins, is secretly run by AIs who abuse humanity, power everything by destroying the energy that gives us love, and morph into a authoritarian theocracy secretly run by AIs who are now at war with the beings in the love dimension. Also, billions die when the first empire falls.

Ringworld is ... not a book series I remember much from, read it when I was young, might be ok might not be.

Also all these worlds also have a big magical element in it, dune with all the spice stuff, hyperion with the love dimension, foundation with the psi powers and magical prediction powers. And they are setups for the stories conflicts (and well, stories).

It is all a bit like saying you want Singularity skies Festival arrive without reading up on what happens afterwards. Helps if you actually read books not skim through them in 2 hours.

E: I need to make a confession, this guy changed my mind on agentic LLMs. They should use them, it will improve their reading comprehension. (they should also add pronouns, if they don't want to be called they)

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 6 points 5 hours ago

See the bright side: chatbots are going to ruin the speedreading industry.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 hours ago

LMFAO, Dune? The setring where computers don't exist anymore because mankind doesn't want machines thinking for them? That dune?

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 6 hours ago

Dune

Prompts ChatGPT, skims the output because of muh ‘fishency

The Omelas Hole sure sounds like a paradise, I want to live in there!

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 11 points 7 hours ago

I don't want to live in the world of The Very Hungry Caterpillar.

I don't want to live in the world of The Giving Tree.

I don't want to live in the world of Pippi Longstocking (Sweden).

I want to live in the world of Goosebumps, The Yellow Pages, and JBL Tune Beam Quick Start Guide.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 11 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Your bonus points link is even dumber than you're suggesting. The first half of the tweet:

I don't want to live in the world of "Camp Of The Saints".

I don't want to live in the world of "Atlas Shrugged".

I don't want to live in the world of "The GULag Archipelago".

I don't want to live in the world of "Nineteen Eighty-Four".

I don't want to live in the "Brave New World".

I want to live in the world of Hyperion, Ringworld, Foundation, and Dune

I don't want bad things! I want good-ish things!

Also I've never read Ringworld or Hyperion but the other two stories span literal millennia and show wildly different societies over that period. Hell, showcasing that development is the entire first set of Foundation stories. Just... You can absolutely tell this sonofabitch doesn't actually read.

[–] mountainriver@awful.systems 6 points 5 hours ago

Asimov being Asimov, the human consequences of the decline and fall of the galactic empire happens mostly of screen.

How exactly Trantor in a couple of hundred years went from a bustling planetary city to a planet where the last survivors scratch out a living from farming the former imperial grounds, is better left unexplored. If you are living in that world you are much more likely to be among the masses were stuff happens that will eventually be noted by Foundation scholars as "population decline", than being a Foundation scholar.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 9 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

It's been ages since I read Hyperion but I think it's one of those settings that start out somewhat utopian but as the story progresses you are meant to realize they are deeply fucked.

Also I had to look up Camp of the Saints, and I think complaining about living there may be a racist dog whistle.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 3 hours ago

spoiler for hyperionIn the first book it is revealed that the utopian hegemonic force is actually hypercolonialist, which destroyed one of the main characters planets (and killed the dolphins) and made him turn to terrorism. The later books make everything worse.

[–] JFranek@awful.systems 9 points 5 hours ago

"The Camp of the Saints is a 1973 French dystopian fiction novel by author and explorer Jean Raspail. A speculative fictional account, it depicts the destruction of Western civilization through Third World mass immigration to France and the Western world."

More of a train whistle than a dog whistle this one.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No may be about it, Camp of the Saints is only ever mentioned by big racists these days. Might as well be the Turner Diaries.

I live how he put The Gulag Archipelago in there along a bunch of speculative fiction.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 6 points 4 hours ago

The Gulag Archipelago is the dystopian future after (((Those People))) successfully destroy Western civilisation by flooding it with gay Muslims, of course.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 21 points 12 hours ago

Found a primo response in the replies:

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 9 points 11 hours ago

Would be interesting to put him to the test vs someone who had spent two hours reading the book.

He gets 1 prompt and his little agents. He can't keep prompting for every question.

[–] diz@awful.systems 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe he didn't read Dune he just had AI summarize it.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I mean even if you somehow miss the whole computers are haram aspect of the duniverse, being a space peasant ruled by psychic tyrants still hardly seems like a winning proposition.