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AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
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It's been ages since I read Hyperion but I think it's one of those settings that start out somewhat utopian but as the story progresses you are meant to realize they are deeply fucked.
Also I had to look up Camp of the Saints, and I think complaining about living there may be a racist dog whistle.
@Architeuthis @sneerclub Referencing Camp of the Saints at all is a racist dog whistle.
"The Camp of the Saints is a 1973 French dystopian fiction novel by author and explorer Jean Raspail. A speculative fictional account, it depicts the destruction of Western civilization through Third World mass immigration to France and the Western world."
More of a train whistle than a dog whistle this one.
No may be about it, Camp of the Saints is only ever mentioned by big racists these days. Might as well be the Turner Diaries.
I live how he put The Gulag Archipelago in there along a bunch of speculative fiction.
The Gulag Archipelago is the dystopian future after (((Those People))) successfully destroy Western civilisation by flooding it with gay Muslims, of course.
spoiler for hyperion
In the first book it is revealed that the utopian hegemonic force is actually hypercolonialist, which destroyed one of the main characters planets (and killed the dolphins) and made him turn to terrorism. The later books make everything worse.