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Discord confirms it's moving toward 'becoming a public company' as it hires a former Activision executive as its new CEO (www.pcgamer.com)

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Co-founder Jason Citron is stepping down, but will remain with the company as a member of the board of directors.

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[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

[sarcasm] Who could have ever seen it coming? [/sarcasm]

Honestly, the writing was on the wall for a long time, it had no clear business model and was a mess. It was always going to go this way and I tried pointing out that it was a bad platform but nobody either cared or believed me. Whelp, looks like I was a Cassandra yet again.

Hope Open Source people can make something to fill the gap, there really is nothing else (yet). Matrix really doesn't have the features and that which it does have is often bad UX and doesn't work everywhere. Not seen anything else which will fill the gap and I've been looking but I guess nobody thought discord would go down, go this way, or just don't really know how to make something that would fill the gap, or didn't want to.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Sounds like a good time to reinstall ventrilo

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mumble is where it's at.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 days ago

I just have to find a linux distro that likes my network device so I can install my local server, but I honestly never left Mumble, the sound quality is higher that Discord (imo)

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Adding that to my list, I was looking at element (matrix), revolt and fosscord

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I assume that one was a joke, Ventrilo looks very out of date

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventrilo

Revolt is nice though. Once they finish upgrading the app, it would be an easy switch

I didn't know about Fosscord (now called Spacebar it seems), it looks cool https://github.com/spacebarchat

Spacebar is a free, opensource selfhostable discord-compatible chat, voice and video platform.

Discord-compatible (Use all your custom clients/bots with minimal changes)

Selfhostable (Server)

Open Source (GitHub Organization)

Configurable (Configure every aspect and limits to your needs)

Decentralized (no abuse of power and doesn't have a single point of failure)

Extendable (secure and cross-platform plugin system)

Themeable (cross-platform theme system with design editor)

Secure (publicly audited and hosted FOSS software for transparent foundation in terms of security)

[–] mooncake@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

Ventrilo is what everyone used like 20 years ago it's the OG of course it's outdated

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago

Spacebar looks to be exactly what I’ve been looking for! Unfortunately, according to their FAQ the voice and video features aren’t implemented yet but here’s hoping that someone comes on-board to help set it up 🤞definitely an easy decision for a self hosted Discord alternative if that comes to fruition!

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Fosscord changed to "spacebar" a while back. If you want a more Discord-like experience, try the Cinny or Comet Matrix client. And on mobile the SchildiNext Chat client. Although I really can't recommend Matrix as a replacement at all.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I just want an experience my friends aren't too stumped by. I'll give them a look! Thank you!

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Matrix authentication process is confusing and annoying. If your friends aren't technical, they're going to have a bad time.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

Ye, it is. I liked it but I don't think many will. A non-paranoid mode or service for matrix would be nice

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[–] Badabinski@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"Get off vent, or I'll have you bent."

I wish those stupid videos weren't the first thing my brain goes for when I see the word "Ventrilo."

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[–] PixelProf@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Any good options recommended for self-hosting something similarly functional that doesn't take too much effort to get up, audit, maintain? Discovery isn't really important for me, so federated isn't really necessary, but a cool extra. I'd love to host something or contribute to hosting for my gaming groups, my class or multiple classes at my school, or otherwise. Voice, chat, screen share, camera, would all be great if possible, but range of options would be good. I'm still using Mumble for gaming...

Haven't tinkered much with Matrix nor do I know much about Revolt, but I'm curious before I look into it deeper if anyone in the community has experience hosting any communication platforms for small, invitational groups.

[–] ized@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Matrix is probably be the best bet atm, although I'm hoping for Spacebar to get more mature as they are aiming for feature parity and compatibility with discord. This way you can host your server with Spacebar, use their client and still be friends with discord users/be in discord servers that haven't switched yet. Only thing impossible with Spacebar is discord users joining your self hosted server, but once they reach feature maturity (esp in regards to voicechat and videochat) it'll make switching super seamless.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nothing comes close to the feature set offered by Discord, Matrix' bad priorities unfortunately made sure of this. There currently is a project to fix their shit even if it means to break some bad decisions, Tuwunel, however it's neither ready nor is it clear where it will end up. The previous project it forked, Conduwuit, got bullied into giving up.

You'll probably be best off with a classic 2-way approach for now. Stick with Mumble for Voice and get something nice for Chat and Organizing like Mattermost or Revolt (or even IRC if you're a purist). With some luck Discord's strong enshittification will give projects like Tuwunel the necessary push it needs to force Matrix to finally care for more than just the needs of governments and their perfectionism that gets them nowhere for years now. That or we'll see some kind of soft-fork with even more bad blood.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This just sounds like FUD.

What should the Matrix developers have prioritized instead? Chat programs are complicated, especially when you're making them distributed. You're comparing an organization and a MSP with like $1M/yr revenue with a soon-to-IPO company with $600M/yr in revenue.

What feature is missing from Matrix that is preventing Discord users from joining?

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

Is this a joke? Even if you ignore the overly fancy stuff like those Forum-like features Matrix can hardly do the basics correctly. The encryption constantly causes issues, Voice feature is still beta, the UX is a mess, the UI is lackluster, basic features are missing (you can't even set the Voice Activation level, wtf), there are no integrated admin tools and the third-party UIs are either wonky or lackluster, the software (both server and client) is a bloated mess that takes aeons to do anything and is awful to develop (a friend looked at it and quickly decided it's not worth all the hassle)…

Of course there's a difference in size, still they could've figured things out way better in the last decade. People ask for voice channels since 2017, and not just did they have a working Jitsi integration, there also are WebRTC frameworks ready to use they could've picked. And even now with that Beta feature it is more than obvious they do not want it to work as simple as Discord, but more like a professional software for meetings (that or they just really love creating convoluted UI).

There's no way to get any majority of Discord users to use this mess. We discussed this once in our local hackerspace, and while the general opinion of course was more complex given some people know how complicated the protocol is, there also was a consensus that the software as it is is "not great to use". And if even hackers / enthusiasts are saying this there's no way in hell to convince casual users.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 19 points 2 days ago

Moving towards becoming a shit company, you mean.

[–] Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 7 points 2 days ago

That sucks

[–] Yermaw@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Gonna go ahead and show my ignorance here, but why is this such a bad thing?

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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Lol IRC knockoff

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Womp womp

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

God fucking dammit.

[–] smokingpistol@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Better buy some stock. I kick myself for not buying Reddit stock before it went public

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago

I was recently asked to chat on discord. Add this to a host of other reasons I declined.

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