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"This is really going to impact institutions that we take for granted," Internet Archive director of archiving and data services Jefferson Bailey told the Standard, "like our museums, our historical societies, our public libraries, our academic libraries — just a lot of people that keep information free and accessible and online."

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[–] hedhoncho@lemm.ee 10 points 3 hours ago

Ugh some asshole who’s only going to live a century depriving an endless future of historical knowledge. Musk needs to be detained and imprisoned.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago

I wished we hadn't voted for him. Wait a minute...

[–] power@lemm.ee 11 points 6 hours ago

they already faced cyber attacks now this? i mean, what can i say that hasn't already been said? keep on fighting for democracy!

[–] plantmoretrees@lemm.ee 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

He is literally a foreign terrorist. Deport his ass!

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

ironically hes from a country thats currently being influenced by russia too.

[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 8 points 7 hours ago

They also have a merch store: https://store.archive.org/

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 35 points 11 hours ago

Modern book burnings create a lot less smoke and noise.

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 13 points 10 hours ago

He's a loser. As are all his "dark enlightenment" apartheid neo-Nazi bootlickers :-)

[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 hours ago

Time to donate again :)

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 83 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Musk should really be removed from power.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 8 points 11 hours ago

no one voted him in power in the first place, doesnt that go directly against democracy too?

[–] Uppp@lemm.ee 16 points 14 hours ago

Musk should be removed entirely. He has gone completely authoritarian.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Vacation to El Salvador. Permanent.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

CECOT or gitmo.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't he an illegal? Oh he isn't and you say he has papers? Oops! Sorry, cannot get him back, we don't have that kind of power, shrug emoji!

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

he got in on a J-visa, so did his brother, he did something long enough so that him or his brother could permanently stay in the country. he allegedly was going to grad school? but quickly abandoned it once he got his citizenship.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

...i believe that, officially, he's just a consultant: some woman whose name i can't remembre is the nominal head of the department which nominally-isn't-DOGE...

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 73 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't it weird how "doge" just goes after anything that actually benefits people?

[–] iowagneiss@midwest.social 26 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

To be replaced by something privately funded, if at all.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Libertarians must be creaming their jorts.

[–] portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

They used to burn books. Now they just defund information storage services.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

sounds like the same thing.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 32 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

You know what is so ironic? I remember not that long ago (OK, like 20 years ago...) that once something was on the internet, it is there forever as long as file sharing and multiple hosts do it... but it has become abundantly clearly that, despite the fact that it can be REALLY hard to get shit off the internet, it doesn't make it impossible. We've already seen it happen. The truth is, there is so much stuff that people DON'T widely share, and even then, the interest in their sharing in a torrent style is limited (I once downloaded leaked emails regarding transphobic propagandists talking to one another and while I kept seeding for almost a year, I barely got anyone downloading), that it is actually possible to make large amounts of stuff just vanish.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I think the real point of the adage, "once it's on the internet it's there forever" is more about the fact that you, personally, can't take it back. Someone might of screenshot, downloaded it, reuploaded it elsewhere. The real meaning being that, once it's on the internet, you no longer control it. Which I think still holds true, but it definitely was heavily implied that it would be there forever.

[–] portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 15 hours ago

Pretty much this. Once you put it on the internet it's out of your control. It might disappear, it might not. Best just to assume it won't. Unless it's useful information, then it probably will.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I've seen several examples of things wiped before, so I've always been a bit skeptical of that adage. I've seen several niche forums, or even forums of small newspapers - just go completely offline.

It might be these are still sitting around on backups somewhere and will some day come to light and be hosted by some entity in an open format...

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I made forum posts going as far back as 2000. Almost all of them are gone forever due to the reasons you mentioned. Even the wayback machine might have a snapshot of the forum, but not the threads made them, and not the posts made within those threads.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

i started joining forums in late 2000s when i was in CC, those were og"reddit" sites before i migrated to Y'Answers, then to reddit after that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm wondering if any BBS posts I made way, way back when are on any drives anywhere. I'm sure it's possible. I'm pretty sure the USENET posts I made back in the day started to get archived by Google (at least) and I'm pretty they will be around for quite some time.

Proprietary things built and run by private tyrannies using no standard protocol (like NNTP or ActivityPub) I don't give much of a chance...

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I made BBS posts in the early-mid 90s. They don't exist anymore, because at that time the only BBSes I had any access to were local guys running one off a personal computer (and as such weren't even available 24/7). The DMs and chats that happened there? If those guys actually kept the logs and kept transferring them from HD to HD, then I'll be damned... but chances are likely they have disappeared into the ether.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Same. Some of my friends ran BBSes back in the 80s in the fashion you talk about - at least one friend had parents who were comparatively rich/doting and had a second phone line (!) so one of them was up quite often. I think he ran his from a C64.

Sadly, I could not afford a modem at the time - and my parents were not too keen on the idea anyway, because they assumed I'd be running up big bills. I didn't have any access to a HD until late 1989 and that was all of 20MB (Mac SE). I didn't get into BBSes until 1991 because I finally had a modem and a phone line....

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 63 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

$345,000?

That's like, 2 devs and an 8 CPU VM.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Holy shit, that's like not even a rounding error to the US Government. So obvious what he is doing.

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[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago

That's 1/100th the price Trump paid to send innocent people to CECOT.

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