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[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 2 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago)

I believe all life have value, no matter what.

I believe in justice and equality.

I believe in the rule if law.

I believe in democracy.

I believe in the freedom of speech.

I believe in religious freedom.

I believe no one should go hungry.

I believe no one should freeze.

I believe no one should die from preventable diseases.

I believe everyone has a right to education.

I believe everyone has a right to healthcare.

I believe everyone has a right to participate in society and the internet.

I believe everyone should contribute if they can, because that is fair.

I believe people should be able to retire.

I believe most people are good, and want to do good.

I believe in cooperation, and working towards a common goal.

I believe that all people should have a minimum set of rights, that are non-negotiable.

I trust my neighbours, my family and strangers.

Based on these values I could be placed anywhere from center-right to far-left in Europe.

In the US I am a filthy commie

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago)

For sure, left wing are most of what I see here, except for trolls and bots

If I needed a label, probably Progressive. I liked Biden’s platform and agreed we needed to try a centrist like him to see if it was possible to start working together again. I also believed he did at least as well as anyone could, and if his legacy hadn’t been torn to bits by turnip would have positioned the US well for decades to come. He could have shifted that Overton window, sowed the seeds that a more Progressive candidate could reap.

But if I try to articulate a common theme for my current beliefs, it is to invest in the future. I’m a strong believer in a good education for all as the foundation of our future. I’m inspired by the possibilities of science and technology. We need people to have the opportunity to strive, improve, and to dare, knowing we will catch them if they fall

Earlier in life I thought I was much more Conservative but the twisted thing is I now say the same things from a very different perspective.

  • I’m a strong believer in family values: every family member deserves equal respect and human rights, every new parent deserves quality time with a new child without regard for work, every child deserves the best healthcare without regard for their parents income, every child deserves a top notch education and the resources to succeed at it, every elderly or disabled person deserves to have their needs met and continue a decent life.
  • I believe in innovation and pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. A solid education for all allows each person the opportunity to achieve their potential. A comprehensive safety net lets each person reach for the stars without fear, lets them dare to fail without perishing, allows them to learn from a failure and try again.
  • I believe in self-sufficiency and independence. Every person deserves a basic income to survive without burdening anyone else. Every person needs healthcare sufficient to recover without losing their independence, their savings, or their loved ones. People who choose city life should be able to walk out their door with only what they carry, and get anywhere. Comprehensive well maintained infrastructure is the ultimate independence
  • I believe in fiscal responsibility. Every investment to look toward the future, build a better society, a better environment, a better humanity
  • I believe in capitalism. Competition is enabled by a legal framework facilitating fairness, equal opportunity, transparency. Capitalism maximizes potential in a free market regulated by politics for the long term benefit of the voter/consumer
[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 1 points 40 minutes ago

Yes, seemingly every commenter

[–] emberinmoss@sh.itjust.works 1 points 53 minutes ago

I've been on Lemmy for about two months and there is a good amount of left-leaning folks here. I definitely consider myself in the left-wing category. I hover somewhere between a bit liberal, a bit socialist, and a bit of a commie, but absolutely no authoritarianism.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm Independent, but cannot support Republicans anymore ... so I guess I'm a Democrat that hates gun control.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

if you go far enough left, you get your guns back. :)

[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a left libertarian. I embrace decentralization, collectivism, freedom from corporate and central government tyranny, and want to maximize individual liberty and progressive values as we ideally move towards a society like the Culture series by Ian M. Banks.

I'm not Anarchist because it's too chaotic and unrealistic, and I'm not ML because I don't like State authoritarianism and central planning.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Can you give some examples of how that works? Like, who pays for roads, who handles environmental regulations (or are there any), who establishes education standards (or are there any), etc. I'm not trying to argue, it just seems like on the internet people referring to "state authoritarianism" and "central government tyranny" ranges from "adults can't be transgender" to "I have to pay taxes and the government won't let me own slaves."

[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There's a few ways to handle, but for example:

  • Roads: large towns and cities would mostly handle their own road maintenance. Roads connecting towns would probably be joint ventures. Projects would be funded and contracted by the towns and financed by town income tax. Rural areas would be underfunded, but that's partly intentional - dense population centers are more sustainable.

  • Environmental regulations: handled at the level of impact. for example, water quality standards for a river bind everyone who accesses the river. restrictions (e.g. standards for heavy metal levels) would be passed by minority vote - if 40% want a standard, that's enough. carbon credits would be administered at the Federal or World levels, by a combination of central government and treaties.

  • Education: probably pretty devolved, mostly a choice by municipalities in what they offer/teach. there'd likely be standardized tests that most places agree on for transferability (e.g. how the SAT works today.) religious schools could exist in religious communities, or you could have a Montessori program in your secular socialist Kibbutz.

  • Slavery: illegal at the Federal/World level. same with indentured servitude and coercive contracts. one of the most important functions of the central government is to protect the civil liberties of individuals.

So the principles are mostly:

  • Externalities are handled at the level of their impact.
  • More power locally, less power centrally. City governments are more like micro-nations bound by a sort of EU.
  • Cities largely have a lot of direct democracy with some representatives. Critically, city governments wield lots of power over the businesses that operate in the city. This is critical to check corporate power.
  • Federal government exists as a backstop to safeguard fundamental rights and for truly national concerns.
[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

i like what you are saying, just a few modifications I would make:

-Water control and regulation should be based on watersheds. all organizations operating in a given watershed are beholden to the laws of that watersheds own regulator. this would allow for actual management of the resource and protection from exploitation.

-there would need to be a strong incentive to work together with other municipalities and not be antagonistic. I am unsure what that would look like, but when you reduce central power, smaller powers can attempt to oppress others more easily.

[–] psion1369@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

When asked, I usually tell people that I vote Dem because it's as close to my anarchist ideals as I can get. I would consider myself a social-anarchist, in that I feel laws shouldn't be written around societal structures and ideals. Society and culture changes, and I shouldn't be punished because some dude generations ago decided that something was inappropriate back then. It isn't now, and shouldn't be codified that way,

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Progressive who's been here for a bit. The fediverse has definitely swung more left-wing recently - when I first started up two years ago there was a fair amount of conservative bs, libertarian tech-bros and russian bots - it was about a 50/50 split depending on what instance you were on.

The bot problem seems to have been largely dealt with now, and conservative voices have been more or less drowned out by the new influx of users fleeing twitter and Reddit crackdowns. Many are agreeing that the current administration is bad for everyone. There are a number of hard auth-left moral purity testers that kind of a pain in the ass that pop up from time to time.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I like to consider myself leftist. But it's true that I don't agree in all that most current left wing political parties stand for.

I think all human are born equal, and should have a good life. That politics should be used to improve everyone's life.

But in the what does this mean or how to do it I feel more and more differences lately.

To give an example, I cannot really stand identity politics. I think that the best course of action is to dissolve identitarian (is that word real?) groups instead of exacerbating their differences. I feel like people should be getting rid of labels instead of having more and more labels every day.

That's just a personal opinion, based on the idea that if you define different groups the chance of conflict between groups is bigger than if you define only one group. And I do get the idea behind identity politics within the left wing spectrum. I just don't agree that's the best course of action.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Minority groups didn't make up identity politics, majority groups did, when they engaged in oppression of minorities.

Queer people don't have that much in common. Straight people forced us to band together for our rights.

Gay people don't have much in common with trans people, but straight people can't tell us apart/treat us the same so we band together.

Disabled people, people of color, it's similar stories.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I also have a hard time with ID politics and the like, but I'm also a privileged white dude so my primary gripe will always be focused around economic disparity. The BLM protests helped me see it this way: There is not war but the class war, but there are multiple fronts. If we don't at least try a little to protect minority groups, we won't have any progressives left

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 14 minutes ago

While I don’t understand gender politics, alternate pronouns and labels, I long since realized that it doesn’t matter. I’m all for everyone living their lives their way with equal respect. You do you, and be the best you you can, whatever you that may be, and I’ll be happy to call you friend

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

My priorities in politics is:

  1. Don't wreck the economy.
  2. Uphold the rule of law.

In my country that makes me right leaning. In the US with the current president that apparently makes me a leftist.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh dear, here come the tankies!

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 points 17 hours ago

You communist!

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Anti-Conservative

There is no such thing as liberalism — or progressivism, etc.

There is only conservatism. No other political philosophy actually exists; by the political analogue of Gresham’s Law, conservatism has driven every other idea out of circulation.

There might be, and should be, anti-conservatism; but it does not yet exist. What would it be? In order to answer that question, it is necessary and sufficient to characterize conservatism. Fortunately, this can be done very concisely.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:

There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time.

For millenia, conservatism had no name, because no other model of polity had ever been proposed. “The king can do no wrong.” In practice, this immunity was always extended to the king’s friends, however fungible a group they might have been. Today, we still have the king’s friends even where there is no king (dictator, etc.). Another way to look at this is that the king is a faction, rather than an individual.

As the core proposition of conservatism is indefensible if stated baldly, it has always been surrounded by an elaborate backwash of pseudophilosophy, amounting over time to millions of pages. All such is axiomatically dishonest and undeserving of serious scrutiny. Today, the accelerating de-education of humanity has reached a point where the market for pseudophilosophy is vanishing; it is, as The Kids Say These Days, tl;dr . All that is left is the core proposition itself — backed up, no longer by misdirection and sophistry, but by violence.

So this tells us what anti-conservatism must be: the proposition that the law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

Then the appearance arises that the task is to map “liberalism”, or “progressivism”, or “socialism”, or whateverthefuckkindofstupidnoise-ism, onto the core proposition of anti-conservatism.

No, it a’n’t. The task is to throw all those things on the exact same burn pile as the collected works of all the apologists for conservatism, and start fresh. The core proposition of anti-conservatism requires no supplementation and no exegesis. It is as sufficient as it is necessary. What you see is what you get:

The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

  • Frank Wilhoit
[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago

Thanks, Frank! Very eloquently put!

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 15 points 17 hours ago

Yes. Signing up is not easy. Most people here can understand written instructions and have some basic technical knowledge. People who are not stupid tend to lean left.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. They are fanatics too. Like Twitter but instead of wanting to kill people for profit, IRS wanting to kill people for not being left.

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Come on, that's not true. We just want to "re-educate" you guys

[–] yaroto98@lemmy.org -4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't consider myself left leaning. Both left and right are corrupt and neither actually practice what they preach. The left is the US is currently the lesser of two evils though. I do consider myself a socialist-libertarian. I think government should be there to keep the populace safe, and provide basic human necessities to all, and no more. The govt should not be able to execute capital punishment nor declare war. Retalitory strikes, defense and supporting allies defending themselves are all fine, but we could get rid of most of the military and funnel that money back to socialist programs and be a MUCH wealthier and happier country.

[–] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world -4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The only reason the left is the lesser of the 2 evils right now is because they aren't in power.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm team right-wing.

The right chicken wing is always tastier, so I eat that first.

Edit: Wait, this is politics? Wrong thread.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

I promote right-wing policies: you should always use the right wings for your airplane, using whatever wings you happen to have left in stock is a recipe for disaster. Left-wing policies are dangerous.

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[–] pubquiz@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

By LEFT do you infer compassion, empathy, and class solidarity? In contrast, by RIGHT do you infer me-first, only my rights matter and only those in my clan deserve to be cared about?

Then, yes.

[–] thisdude1092@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Spoken like a true liberal.

[–] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 9 points 21 hours ago

Well we know where you stand without doubt

[–] IndieSpren@lemmy.blahaj.zone 83 points 1 day ago
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