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[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 2 points 48 minutes ago

I'm a left libertarian. I embrace decentralization, collectivism, freedom from corporate and central government tyranny, and want to maximize individual liberty and progressive values as we ideally move towards a society like the Culture series by Ian M. Banks.

I'm not Anarchist because it's too chaotic and unrealistic, and I'm not ML because I don't like State authoritarianism and central planning.

[–] psion1369@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

When asked, I usually tell people that I vote Dem because it's as close to my anarchist ideals as I can get. I would consider myself a social-anarchist, in that I feel laws shouldn't be written around societal structures and ideals. Society and culture changes, and I shouldn't be punished because some dude generations ago decided that something was inappropriate back then. It isn't now, and shouldn't be codified that way,

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Progressive who's been here for a bit. The fediverse has definitely swung more left-wing recently - when I first started up two years ago there was a fair amount of conservative bs, libertarian tech-bros and russian bots - it was about a 50/50 split depending on what instance you were on.

The bot problem seems to have been largely dealt with now, and conservative voices have been more or less drowned out by the new influx of users fleeing twitter and Reddit crackdowns. Many are agreeing that the current administration is bad for everyone. There are a number of hard auth-left moral purity testers that kind of a pain in the ass that pop up from time to time.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 hours ago

I like to consider myself leftist. But it's true that I don't agree in all that most current left wing political parties stand for.

I think all human are born equal, and should have a good life. That politics should be used to improve everyone's life.

But in the what does this mean or how to do it I feel more and more differences lately.

To give an example, I cannot really stand identity politics. I think that the best course of action is to dissolve identitarian (is that word real?) groups instead of exacerbating their differences. I feel like people should be getting rid of labels instead of having more and more labels every day.

That's just a personal opinion, based on the idea that if you define different groups the chance of conflict between groups is bigger than if you define only one group. And I do get the idea behind identity politics within the left wing spectrum. I just don't agree that's the best course of action.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Anti-Conservative

There is no such thing as liberalism — or progressivism, etc.

There is only conservatism. No other political philosophy actually exists; by the political analogue of Gresham’s Law, conservatism has driven every other idea out of circulation.

There might be, and should be, anti-conservatism; but it does not yet exist. What would it be? In order to answer that question, it is necessary and sufficient to characterize conservatism. Fortunately, this can be done very concisely.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:

There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time.

For millenia, conservatism had no name, because no other model of polity had ever been proposed. “The king can do no wrong.” In practice, this immunity was always extended to the king’s friends, however fungible a group they might have been. Today, we still have the king’s friends even where there is no king (dictator, etc.). Another way to look at this is that the king is a faction, rather than an individual.

As the core proposition of conservatism is indefensible if stated baldly, it has always been surrounded by an elaborate backwash of pseudophilosophy, amounting over time to millions of pages. All such is axiomatically dishonest and undeserving of serious scrutiny. Today, the accelerating de-education of humanity has reached a point where the market for pseudophilosophy is vanishing; it is, as The Kids Say These Days, tl;dr . All that is left is the core proposition itself — backed up, no longer by misdirection and sophistry, but by violence.

So this tells us what anti-conservatism must be: the proposition that the law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

Then the appearance arises that the task is to map “liberalism”, or “progressivism”, or “socialism”, or whateverthefuckkindofstupidnoise-ism, onto the core proposition of anti-conservatism.

No, it a’n’t. The task is to throw all those things on the exact same burn pile as the collected works of all the apologists for conservatism, and start fresh. The core proposition of anti-conservatism requires no supplementation and no exegesis. It is as sufficient as it is necessary. What you see is what you get:

The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

  • Frank Wilhoit
[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

Thanks, Frank! Very eloquently put!

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 27 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

My priorities in politics is:

  1. Don't wreck the economy.
  2. Uphold the rule of law.

In my country that makes me right leaning. In the US with the current president that apparently makes me a leftist.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 12 hours ago

You communist!

[–] yaroto98@lemmy.org -4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't consider myself left leaning. Both left and right are corrupt and neither actually practice what they preach. The left is the US is currently the lesser of two evils though. I do consider myself a socialist-libertarian. I think government should be there to keep the populace safe, and provide basic human necessities to all, and no more. The govt should not be able to execute capital punishment nor declare war. Retalitory strikes, defense and supporting allies defending themselves are all fine, but we could get rid of most of the military and funnel that money back to socialist programs and be a MUCH wealthier and happier country.

[–] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The only reason the left is the lesser of the 2 evils right now is because they aren't in power.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. They are fanatics too. Like Twitter but instead of wanting to kill people for profit, IRS wanting to kill people for not being left.

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Come on, that's not true. We just want to "re-educate" you guys

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 13 points 12 hours ago

Yes. Signing up is not easy. Most people here can understand written instructions and have some basic technical knowledge. People who are not stupid tend to lean left.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I'm team right-wing.

The right chicken wing is always tastier, so I eat that first.

Edit: Wait, this is politics? Wrong thread.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

I promote right-wing policies: you should always use the right wings for your airplane, using whatever wings you happen to have left in stock is a recipe for disaster. Left-wing policies are dangerous.

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[–] pubquiz@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

By LEFT do you infer compassion, empathy, and class solidarity? In contrast, by RIGHT do you infer me-first, only my rights matter and only those in my clan deserve to be cared about?

Then, yes.

[–] thisdude1092@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Spoken like a true liberal.

[–] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 8 points 16 hours ago

Well we know where you stand without doubt

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most people everywhere are slightly left of centre*. Most leaders everywhere are slightly right of centre*.

*Not in the American sense. Y'all crazy.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Not only that, I’ve tried pitching the fediverse to right wing people, but they didn’t bite.

Even the crypto bros that were all about decentralization couldn’t see why a decentralized social media platform was superior.

This also didn’t matter for people who care about “free speech”.

You think the allure of being fully independent and having your own instance would be right up their alley given how they value independence, but nope.

Seriously? Why isn’t there a right wing instance? My guess is that a right wing person can’t fathom owning something that benefits others which doesn’t give them back profit.

[–] Letme@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

"free speech", as your quotation marks imply, does not really exist outside of theory. In reality, free speech is a set of laws governing hate speech or other dangerous speech.

Both the right and the left have ideas of what they think these laws should be.

But there is no such thing as "free speech" in the real world.

[–] tocano@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago
[–] libra00@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Like everything on the right, decentralization is a means to an end, not a value in itself. They only care about it when it's useful for helping them get ahead. Just like they only care about free speech when it's them speaking to people who don't want to hear their bullshit.

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[–] IndieSpren@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 1 day ago
[–] Forester@pawb.social 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

This is the fediverse it's full of new people, adventurers, change makers. The majority of people who would be interested in this platform will have a more progressive bent. So the majority of people here will be more accepting of liberal policies.

[–] thisdude1092@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago

Just say yes

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 64 points 1 day ago (32 children)

Quibble: Many here are explicitly leftist, in the a leftist-not-liberal sense, and will even use "liberal" derogatorily. So, progressive, yes, but liberal, not necessarily.

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

to make matters more fun, many 'explicitly leftist' lemmings are tankies (blind supporters of russia, china, north korea, etc), who are explicitly not leftist but authoritarians masquerading in the skinsuit of the people's revolution.

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

Good point, many think left = liberal = US democrats who are centrists at best from the international perspective. So no, most people on here probably aren't actual leftists, but I'm guessing when they say they 'lean left' they mean US-liberal-not-conservative, not socialist or whatever.

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