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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

The stupid "doge" thing was never about balancing the budget anyway. That's all bullshit red meat for the dumbasses that voted for donvict.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Let’s qualify this more accurately. It’s not lost. It’s “lost.”

Let’s all keep an eye out for the shiny new upgrades to putin’s war crimes in Ukraine.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s not lost. The people who wanted to keep it for themselves got to keep it. They know exactly where it is.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That’s my point.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 21 points 1 day ago

I think we should organize and go demand everyone working for DOGE... stop. And not demand like with funny signs and chants, but like with 2nd amendment arms.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wait till you see how much we loose from killing the Department of Education. Education is like the easiest ROI

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Just like in corporate america, the savings hit this quarter so bonuses all around. Then the CEO jumps ship and it's someone else's problem next quarter.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's not the quickest though. ROI timeline is 18 years minimum for tax from non-degree level jobs, 22/23 years for degree level, and 26 to 30 years for post doctoral.

It's sad. The quarterly pressure to generate value is one of the worst economic forces of capitalism which drives enshitification, job-instability from the "fire bottom performing 10%" so that you can post more "profits" from cost cutting, and the general short-term thinking that pervades all aspects of the culture.

It's the reason "nobody" builds things to last or metaphorically plants something now for the future: it's not profitable quick enough.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

That's what is so sad to see - whole lotta young dumbasses with the same kind of short-term thinking dunking on "boomers" and things like Social Security. As well as unions, the post office, and public schools. Even worse when the framing of it is accompanied with some blather about "my generation" and so on, yadda yadda.

They are probably so filled with Dunning-Kruger that it hasn't even occurred to them that prior "generations" were told the exact same hokum and that their "generation" is not magically any different....

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Totally agree. Was talking to my brother who worked for the US Corps of Engineers. He said they have a decades long outlook for their projects. So if they want to remove a dam or something, studies are done to make sure that is the smartest move not just for the next few years, but the next several decades.

So refreshing vs the typical "new CEO wants to fire x% of the workforce to generate 1% more profit this year (ignore the fact that customers will leave when it's that much shittier here... That's next year's (and next Ceo's) problem)".

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You gotta give it to Elmo, few people would have been able to pull off that feat. I mean, losing that much money takes hard work and dedication, and I'm not even kidding hete. It actually takes a certain skill set (extreme incompetency combined with an unending unearned confidence) to be able to lose that much money that quickly. I was impressed with the money he lost from Twitter, but that's peanuts now, that's a rounding error in comparison to what he's losing the US now.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

That money isn't lost, I think we all know who's going to divvy it up when all is said and done.

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Oh so sad. Elect a clown expect a circus.

Install an unelected billionaire, expect theft.

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Imagine being so fucking dumb you use IRS data to go after immigrants who are paying taxes, thus ensuring no immigrant ever pays taxes again.

[–] deadkennedy@lemm.ee 286 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Lost.

Not saved. Lost. Elon and the Musketeers lost this nation half a trillion dollars.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago
[–] Paul_1958@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

And don't forget the 10 trillion in lost war plane sales due to "toning them down in case our allies turn on us', just like he has turned on Canada and Europe.

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[–] Australis13@fedia.io 224 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It should be blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention that the "Department of Government Efficiency" isn't really about efficiency.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 127 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just like the "ministry of truth" isn't about the truth.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And now the "environmental protection agency" is about extracting profit at the expense of the environment

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

Environmental Plundering Agency

[–] elvith@feddit.org 39 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Remember, they're talking about efficiency all day long, but they're not mentioning effectivity with a single word.

Efficiency is how fast/cheap/ressource-less you can get something done. Effectivity is if you're even doing the right thing at all.

You can be super efficient, but still not be effective by doing something, so....

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

I mean we can just say they aren't about efficiency because they don't research anything before they start making cuts it's simply I don't like USAID let's gut it, I don't like the SSA so let's gut it.

They know what they're doing even if Trump somehow gets the boot we're looking at probably 50 years or more to get back our world position if they don't fuck our economy up so badly it's effectively impossible to comeback.

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[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To their credit they're destroying government to pave the way for oligarchy very efficiently

[–] TheObviousSolution@kbin.melroy.org 82 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They are already an oligarchy, they are paving the way for an authoritarian dictatorship now.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 199 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

MAGA/DOGE were bragging about getting like 100 billion dollars over ten years from tariffs while the US gains ~1.5 trillion dollars every year in income tax revenue.

Everything is bad right now.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not for the rich, but that was the plan all along

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It will be. Their short sightedness will lead to their ruin in a dictatorship. History has shown this time and time again. But these billionaire aren't known for being smart or history buffs.

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[–] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think DOGE should send out stimulas checks because of all the money that is going to be saved.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This would be more than reasonable if they were actually doing what they said.

In real life, they're costing the US an insane amount of money, and working class taxpayers will carry the burden of paying for it as usual.

It could easily set a new record for largest transfer of wealth from the workers to the rich in human history.

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[–] Elkot@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anyone checked behind the couch cushions?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (6 children)
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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Making big losses attracts investors. - Elon Musk

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago

Look at THAT Efficiency!

[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 109 points 2 days ago (2 children)

From what I hear.....elon, thief and their cronies are specifically wrecking government to push a corporate takeover...jeeze. it's like robocop.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (4 children)

And/or destabilizing the country's economy and political power worldwide so our enemies like Russia can do whatever they want without the US interfering. The complete destruction of US soft power via things like USAID and the blatant attempts to destroy any collaboration with our allies seems to point more in that direction.

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[–] silicon@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Worse than RoboCop, we don't have a cool robot cop shooting dicks off to show for it

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[–] auginator@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I guess we will lives like Russian and drink cheap American alcohol to forget it all happened.

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