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Sam Beard, organizer of Luigi Mangione’s legal defense fund, claims the dramatic “perp walk” resembling Hannibal Lecter’s treatment backfired on New York authorities, boosting donations to over $743,000.

Mangione, charged with murder and terrorism for allegedly killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, received heightened security during extradition, drawing public sympathy.

Critics argue the campaign glorifies violence, while supporters emphasize fair trial rights.

Mangione, who pleaded not guilty, faces the death penalty if convicted.

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[–] b3an@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This image is so ridiculous. Like he’s a danger so much that it took a platoon of people to parade this dude in cuffs. He allegedly killed one dude, he didn’t EAT the guy. It was blatantly obvious for everyone that this was a show of force, and it ironically makes them look weak as fuck.

You want me to respect your strength? Go put handcuffs on Trump. The rule of law is broken. The weak suffer the most and the rich pay to stay out of it.

I’m not a violent man. A death of another human is a complicated introspection for most people. Then there are others who don’t even consider the value or even a difference in perspective. Luigi is not some psychopath. Allegedly, he deliberately chose impact at the highest level he could. The representation of a broken and predatory system. It’s not ok that faceless entities who aren’t doctors can choose the life and death choices over the recommendations of doctors.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He killed one dude,

Stop saying this shit.

[–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 24 points 1 day ago

Thank you! Everyone has been saying this and it's so cop-brained that it's frustrating.

They have not proven that he killed anyone. He is innocent until proven guilty. When you accept that he actually did anything before he is convicted, you are aiding the police's and prosecutor's job by making the assumption that arrest = guilt.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 21 points 1 day ago

Yep. He didn't do anything. Innocent into proven guilty.

If you want to be accurate, he was the primary suspect of the CEO shooting.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Why, is the court going to use random Lemmy comments as evidence?

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's about being factual. Let's not make this Reddit 2.0 with bs.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Police in the US don't investigate killings, they find a person they feel comfortable pinning it on, and hope the trial works in their favor. We really don't know if this guy is the guy who shot someone, and NYPD has a long history of picking the wrong person to accuse based on their bias and not on facts or evidence. There's every possibly he's actually, in fact, innocent. So far all we've been told offically is largely circumstantial.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Why, are you in favor of spreading misinformation?

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[–] sadicarnot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That is what gets me, all these people who need guns and such to feel strong and tough. The pirates did that. The purpose of the Jolly Roger was to instill fear, but ultimately they wanted the other ship to surrender quickly and without a fight. Pirates were all about show to make victims be afraid of them. But ultimately they were just men in poor health.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

It's like they keep forgetting he is handsome

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 143 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

“It’s horrible when anybody has their life cut short by another person, especially when it could have been prevented,” Beard says on Luigi. “But the same logic has to apply both ways, right?

“Preventing people from getting the healthcare that they need – that you and your company have access to and could provide them, but don’t do so because it would threaten your business model – that’s an act of violence, too,” Beard says.

Hello based department, we got a candidate here for you.

"Luigi" in reference to the name of his podcast not the person Luigi Mangione

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 12 points 2 days ago

Not just the healthcare they need, but also healthcare that they pay for.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 176 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, I pretty much supported him the moment it was clear that the CEO toppled over from a pre-existing condition called "being vulnerable to lead projectiles."

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 74 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Only 9mm too, what a nerd. Back in my day, we were expected to have built up an immunity to 9mm by high school.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

I hear nowadays if you can't tank a 5.56 to the chest by 8th grade they hold you back a year.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

According to RFK the best way to get immunity is for everyone to cop a 9mm lead projectile, instead of using any form of preventative measure.

honestly, coddling the human body about gun shots is making us weak as a people. we'll never get over this pandemic of gun violence if we keep natural compensatory measures from kicking in.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 46 points 2 days ago (2 children)

These government gooners literally cannot comprehend why people live this guy and hate them. It'd be funny if it wasn't so irritating that these are the assholes in charge.

[–] lumony@lemmings.world 7 points 1 day ago

Counterpoint: They know exactly why people love him and why they are hated.

It's time for a revolution.

[–] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It also helps that Luigi looks fine af. Like not even kidding I’m sure that’s a big part of the support too lol.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I agree. Lemmy seems unable to grasp this. He looks like a super nice, ordinary guy that you'd like to hang out with.

He probably is, but what about all the other people who don't look like him? No one talks about jury nullification for their cases.

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[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 204 points 2 days ago (3 children)

His treatment caused about . 02% of the support for him.

United Heaths treatment of the rest of us caused the rest.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Exactly, if he allegedly murdered the CEO of an organization that doesn't profit from the death and destruction of it's customers then the public reaction would be completely different regardless of any perp walk PR stunt.

For profit insurance glorifies violence, not resisting it

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[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Well, also the fact that he looks literally nothing like the dude from the security camera stills, the police have been bungling every single step of the evidence process since before they "caught" Mangione, annnd finally all the work theyve done to preprejudice the public into thinking he did it by organizing documentaries demonizing Mangione while being too busy to provide the details of their "evidence" to Mangione's legal council (which they are legally obligated to do!)

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I support him even if he's innocent.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 227 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Who would'a thunk cops are really bad at reading the room?

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 134 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"Okay guys, we've got an attractive man with a huge amount of public support behind him regardless of guilt. How can we not turn him into a martyr?"

"Hannibal Lecter walk?"

"Yeah that won't backfire at all!"

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 65 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

lol what could they possibly expect him to do that necessitates having multiple men with rifles?

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While they didn’t need to go overboard like they did, the threat model is reversed. They are worried about what other people might do to him.

Ie: attempt to free him.

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[–] elatedCatfish@lemm.ee 22 points 2 days ago

Cops will shoot your dog for barking then wonder why people think they’re assholes

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Given the success He should start his Presidental run right now. ( I want at least to see this movie )

[–] itspatato@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

A president once said “ I could shoot someone on fifth Ave. and not lose any votes”

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

turns out, it's a pretty good campaign move.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Turns out it only matters who he shoots.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

I want to see a gun duel between Luigi and Trump. We can put together an Old West stage town, and let it play out.

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[–] SleepyBear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ya know, a certain citizen gone president recently employed the tactic to avoid persecution for his crimes.... Can we drag the Mangione case another 3 ish years so Luigi can declare for presidency? Then (based on precedent) his case has to stall until after the election.

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[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 124 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The optics the recently indicted (and later hastily pardoned) mayor being one of the guys perp walking the sympathetic suspect probably didn't help them either.

[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

Right? Most corrupt fuckin cop, there strictly for his own photo op of course, escorting a political-divide-spanning legitimate American folk hero. Seems like a pretty predictable response to me.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 91 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

What they don't seem to realize is that Mangione himself isn't all that important. Whether they kill him or successfully vilify him, in a few years people won't be thinking about the man himself all that much. Their continued hardship will be what they think about, and as long as it's the capital class's fault, the anger will keep growing.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 104 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

This isn’t about a man anymore. It’s about an idea.

I hope the jury nullifies the charges, but he’s become a symbol for the common people of America because he acted on the fury and frustration that hundreds of millions of us feel. You can’t really kill an idea once it gains hold in the minds of that much of the populace.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It would be really funny if the jury nullifies (like so hard it's an acquittal, not just hung so they have to do another trial), and then he went and shot another scumbag CEO.

I would nullify again

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 40 points 2 days ago

Obviously he's innocent and being framed and therefore should be found innocent, but if he gets out he's going to be watched like a hawk. He'll have a whole team dedicated to his surveillance. Again, super innocent, didn't do it.

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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago (12 children)

The shooter is immortal with or without Luigi. The shooter showed us they bleed and they’re scared and stumbling now to stay in control.

They have to sit and marinate with their mortality now. It scares them knowing they aren’t that different from us

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

critics as in boomers, and politicians.

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