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[–] Akanes@startrek.website 3 points 8 hours ago

The Two Towers?

[–] psyspoop@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

I won't go so far as to say this is better than Terminator 2, but Gremlins 2 is such a great sequel. Some people are turned off by the zaniness, but I love how it's basically a parody of unnecessary sequels and that they just swung for the fences with it.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 4 points 21 hours ago

I saw another comment that spurred my thinking. There are (how many?) sequels in the Terminator series that have only been increasingly worse all because Terminator 2 was so good.

The same goes for Star Wars. Empire Strikes Back is a damn good movie by any measure. I’m confident none of the Star Wars movies since have managed to even come close, and I’d even say the only ones really worth watching are the first, the second, and the immediate prequel (Rogue One)

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 4 points 21 hours ago

Hate on Michael Bay and his Transformers movies all you want, but there is only one movie with more robots that turn into more things than cars, more explosions, more ridiculous destruction, more awesomeness, more movie than 2007’s Transformers, and that movie is Transformers: Age of Extinction.

A giant robot that turns into a semi-truck painted with red flames, wielding a sword while riding on the back of another giant robot that turns into a flame-breathing T-rex robot. It’s unparalleled in the stupid dumb action movie genre.

[–] ooli2@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mad max 1 was a revenge cop story nobody watched outside Australia

Mad max 2 was the apocalyptic Mad max everybody know

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say they are better, per se, but these are some sequels I think are on the same level, when compared to the original film in the series:

  • Austin Powers 2

  • Die Hard With a Vengeance

  • Operation Condor 2

  • Back to the Future Part 3

  • Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 3 points 23 hours ago

This one right here, officer.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 83 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 3 points 20 hours ago

The correct answer. The perfect duology.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Game over, man

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

While I do not think that Aliens was a bad film at all, I kinda wish it wasn't a sequel to Alien. It's a completely different film, far more action-oriented

Then again my view is probably significantly coloured by the fact that I enjoyed the first one a lot more

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago

That's one of the reasons it's so good. Alien is perfect space horror. Aliens doesn't try to match it but tells a different kind of story with some of the same characters.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that's the fun of the movie. It's not trying to recapture the suspense or tension of the original. It's a natural evolution in a world of monsters. In the first movie, the crew are just people trying to survive on a ship in space with a terrifying novel threat. Any other monster movie sequel, they find new victims and run it back, but the characters in Aliens react as one should to a new threat. Gear up and go at them with soldiers and weapons.

It's still terrifying because you and they know what lurks in the wet shadows. They are prepared to fight it which is why it's an action movie, but it's still very much an Alien sequel.

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[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The same could be said about terminator 2

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[–] teft@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Empire Strikes Back

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 48 points 1 day ago

The Dark Knight

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 day ago

Empire Strikes Back.

And if you're into "it's so bad it wraps around and becomes hilarious" films, Troll 2.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Hot shots! Part deux.

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 2 points 22 hours ago

I qualify a good sequel as a movie that can be enjoyed without having to watch the previous. Not that the previous isn't important, just not required.

Terminator 2 clearly fits into this category. As do a lot of sequels. Here is my short list:

  • Terminator 2
  • The Dark Knight
  • Finding Dory
  • Toy Story 2
  • Spider Man 2 (Toby Maguire)

Do Casino Royal or Rogue One count for anyone?

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
  • Empire Strikes Back
  • Star Trek II
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Nailed it! I'd add Aliens, not as a better movie, but as a worthy sequel.

cars 2. Nothing better than a spy movie where the protagonist is literally a car

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Wrath of Khan

[–] flx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

People who grew up with the original will probably flay me for this.

Bladerunner 2049 was a better movie than Bladerunner. It took everything that was great about the original and improved upon it.

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 2 points 20 hours ago

It is great.

[–] Ilandar@lemm.ee 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I guess I will need to rewatch 2049 again (I've only seen it once, in the cinema at release). I've watched the original quite a few times since though and I'm increasingly of the opinion that it's quite overrated and gets heavily carried by the visuals and the soundtrack, so I could see a case being made for the sequel being better.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The visuals and soundtrack are a major part of any movie. And yeah, the original rocks out on both.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Old school fan here, from the 80s. I'm just dandy with this take.

Probably never been more nervous about a sequel to a beloved movie. I was praying and praying, please god don't let them fuck this up. But how could they possibly follow one of the top 5 most popular science fiction movies of all time?

Well, Villeneuve knocked it out the fucking park. I was sold from the first scene with Bautista. Sold. Enough call backs and fan service to put us in the world without being obvious and ingratiating. Damned fine line to walk.

Entire cast rocked out, too many props to write down. Yes, Leto was a little over-the-top, but he was supposed to be. Richest man in the world, totally disconnected from his humanity, and humans. And they got Olmos and Ford back! Perfect.

Got to see it with my ex-wife, no one else in the theater. What a grand experience. If it ever comes back to the big screen, I'll not skip it.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago

I had never seen the original until right before watching the sequel. While I really appreciate the original, I had no real expectations from the sequel, but it still blew me away.

I honestly can't say I've ever seen a better sequel. Especially not so long after the first one came out. It's pretty amazing.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

The original is a masterpiece. That said, I loved the sequel and have rewatched it multiple times. However, I don’t know if it is because I love the film or just anything Ryan Gosling is in πŸ€€πŸ˜…

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[–] UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk 19 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Bending the rules a bit here. I know it is not a true sequel, but it's part of a trilogy. Hot Fuzz is better than Shaun of the Dead. Also, except for the second film, I think the Mission Impossible series just gets better with every entry.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

I know it is not a true sequel, but it’s part of a trilogy. Hot Fuzz is better than Shaun of the Dead.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree here.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why do you think Hot Fuzz is better? Not arguing, I love both movies! I had never thought to compare the two

Shaun of the Dead is on my "perfect films" list but I'm sure it's at least in part because of its context in my life.

[–] UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago

I just think the joke ratio is a lot higher and they're all excellent jokes as well. Plus there's tons of little moments which you can pick up on multiple viewings.

Shaun is still a great film, I just think they got better with Fuzz.

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 20 hours ago

I may say unlike the movies, Terminator Zero Series is very good!. It is animated, but story telling is sooo good there.

Evil Dead 2, though it’s arguably a re-telling vs a sequel.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 19 points 1 day ago

Paddington 2

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Godfather II. The first is honestly kind of hokey and people are really stupid when they are trying to be clever. GF II has higher levels of tension and the execution of everything is smarter. And Robert DeNiro just slays playing young Marlon Brando.

[–] cdf12345@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago

Godfather 2

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t think there’s a better movie sequel than Terminator 2. It’s the reason why it’s still an ongoing franchise today.

Would people still watch the first Terminator if it wasn’t for Terminator 2?

The first one is still a great movie. It's biggest hindrance is the low quality stop frame animation when Arnold is just the skeleton. I wish they would re-release it with the fan made improvements to the stop motion that have been done.

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