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Summary

Progressives criticized House Democrats for choosing Rep. Gerry Connolly over Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for the top Democratic seat on the House Oversight Committee.

The 131-84 vote, reportedly influenced by former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, sparked backlash against the party’s “gerontocracy,” with critics like MSNBC’s Joy Reid and others arguing it prioritizes seniority over fresh ideas.

Connolly defended the decision, citing his experience, but progressives argued it reflects the Democratic Party’s resistance to change, hindering its ability to address future challenges and energize younger voters.

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

Old white men gonna old white men.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago

The ol battle axe was in hospital recovering from hip replacement surgery, but Pelosi still has the heart of a true leader, and managed to get a "young 74 year old" the seat. Way to go Democrats! You fucking idiots are why we have trump part deux.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

I'm not actually that surprised a vote by a bunch of politicians was decided based on politics and not which candidate was a better fit.

[–] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 26 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Democrats don't deserve anymore support. We've got to get a party for the working class. It's just corporate whores in the GOP and DNC.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

If you're interested in that you can always check out the DSA and see if they have a local chapter in your area. They're not a political party right now but imo if anything is gonna form a true labor third party in the US it will most likely come from there.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The problem with a winner-take-all system like the Electoral College is that if you do not vote for the Democratic Party, you're just underpinning the Republican Party. The unfortunate truth is that every progressive who sat out the November election for various reasons helped put Trump back in the WH. The Electoral College has to go for a third party to be viable.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 28 minutes ago

That's true right up until it isn't. Just ask the Whigs.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Sure on the national level that's true, but on the local level third parties can definitely make big gains in areas that are safe democrat seats traditionally. Then from there you fight to implement those kinds of systems at the local level and work up from there.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe use those arms for more than just finger-wagging.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 0 points 57 minutes ago

slapping? maybe shooting?

[–] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 20 points 9 hours ago

Yeah fuck the Democrats. I'm not giving the DNC or any mainstream PACs any more money. It'll all go through AOC and Bernie from here on out. (Not that my meager contributions mean much to the DNC Corporate whores.)

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 40 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The progress wing should leave the party. Force the dems to come crawling or show their hands as sleeper Republicans

[–] alloloto@lemmy.world 25 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

The frustration is real. There's a movement to create an American Labor Party. I think if it gets enough steam we might see some real change.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I hope it comes to fruition, but the duopoly is quite established.

[–] alloloto@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Seriously. I think frustration with the Democratic party is at an all-time high though, and that might be an important catalyst.

Not holding my breath but I'll do that I can to help the cause.

[–] CubbyTustard@reddthat.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] alloloto@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Fixed, thanks! Forgot to add the https://

[–] CubbyTustard@reddthat.com 2 points 6 hours ago

thanks i'm checking them out

[–] AlijahTheMediocre@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

I'd be hopeful if it wasn't mathematically almost impossible for a third party. But as soon as it happens sign me up regardless.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

That's just for the president. There's no reason we can't have a third party in the House or Senate.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 hours ago

Its mathematically impossible to have three parties at once that are viable. If enough democrats and republicans move to a third party that it becomes one of the big two, thats fine. The democrats can be the new green party.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago

I'll believe they are "up in arms" as soon as they actually do anything.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 134 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (5 children)

It's not just that he's 74...

It's not just that he got diagnosed with terminal throat cancer, and told voters the day after the recent election.

It's that it hasn't been two years since he last violated (the already barely existent) rules against Congress doing a little insider trading.

https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/gerry-connolly-stocks/

Like, did anyone think when Pelosi was weighing in on the oversight committee, that the person she was backing wasnt corrupt and would actually hold anyone from either party accountable?

Pelosi didn't care just because she hates everyone under retirement age. It's because she needed to know the person in charge of the oversight committee had no reason to hold anyone accountable.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 48 points 15 hours ago (4 children)
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 52 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

That's what I mean, she's corrupt as fuck.

Everyone got hung up on Pelosi just "disliking" AOC, but this would have allowed AOC to investigate Pelosi and other corrupt Dems.

So Pelosi made sure a corrupt Dem got it. That way the status quo is maintained: Dems only go after R, and R only goes after Dems. But neither ever make anything stick.

AOC would try to go after everyone corrupt, and the Republicans would go with it if the target was a Dem.

We'd weed out corruption from the Dem party which would increase turnout, and likely retain the seats.

But it would be bad for Pelosi, and she'll always put herself over party or country

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

That would have been awesome. Purge the Dems of the liberals for a left takeover.

A boy can dream.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 87 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (12 children)

The DNC is a right wing corpo puppet masquerading as opposition.

They're far more comfortable with a fascist as President than they would a leftist like AOC.

Stare at what their priorities are a month before Trump takes office, sabotaging their most leftwing members. Commuting the sentences of profiteer judges. Herp derp gotta keep moving right after all! (just an aside, I love the neoliberals defending Biden's corrupt pardons as "just senile/incompetent")

Reminder: the only leftist congresspeople are spoiler candidates. The DNC promotes solely on the basis of how well you prove you can be bought by large money donors, which tells you all you need to know about who's side they're on. The same side as the Fascists on economic policy, as they get the same checks from the same oligarchs.

I've voted blue for 20 years, with my nose held hoping for harm reduction. I phonebanked for Sanders in 2 campaigns. I already know it's all a sham. You can vote whoever you want as long as they're pro corpo capitalism. But in the 2028 primary, when I see the DNC yet again doing everything they can to kneecap a progressive to install a neoliberal, I'm walking away, as it's just another system of control. The illusion of choice.

If the people won't overcome their "free market" propaganda and vote against the shape and priorities of this sociopath owned economy literally legally conning and murdering us for tidy profits, we can't be saved, and there's nothing worth saving left.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 39 points 15 hours ago
[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 35 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

why are the fucking boomers so resistant of letting go of power? pelosi is 84 years old, she belongs in a nursing house, not politics

[–] half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

A lot of these people are so old they aren't even boomers... Lol. The oldest boomers are still in their late 70s.

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago

As with most people in that position, they've been fucking over people for so long that they're terrified of someone turning the tables on them. Hence gathering ungodly amounts of wealth and insulating themselves from the world.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 46 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

it’s fine I’ve got experience

A fat lot of good your fucking “experience” has done us lately, wouldn’t you say, Connolly, you ossified, cancer-ridden, insider-trading, neoliberal establishment fuck.

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[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 39 points 16 hours ago

rich old white guy: i have an idea - lets have a rich old white guy do it instead

[all vote yea]

:/

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 15 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

DNC: "Look what you made me do"

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ, these people don't learn.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 23 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 15 hours ago

There is NO TIME to do something about the Democratic party better than NOW.

Nothing much going on, no major elections, let's just get ourselves in shape for 2028. Or 2032 of it takes that long, but DAMNIT, let's get started!

They want a leadership power struggle? They want to play games, like everything's ok, "This is fine?" Let's not. Instead of expressing disgust, wringing our hands, shaking our heads, let's start something new. RIGHT NOW.

Because even a year from now would be too late.

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