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Summary

Following Trump’s election victory, social media saw a surge in misogynistic rhetoric, with phrases like “Your body, my choice” — promoted by figures like white supremacist Nick Fuentes — trending widely.

The Institute for Strategic Dialogue reported a 4,600% spike in misogynistic language on social media and noted that harassment has spilled into schools.

Trump’s win, amplified by Elon Musk’s support, has emboldened “manosphere” influencers, aligning Trump with anti-feminist figures.

This rise in misogyny comes amid other social shifts, such as the election of two Black female senators, a first in U.S. history.

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[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 80 points 3 weeks ago
[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“Your body, my choice.”

It's been a while since text on a screen has made me feel so sick...

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

So many qons are still mentally and emotionally stuck at the very worst version of an entitled 14 year old boy.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Well it probably doesn't help that over half of white women want to be treated this way

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They didn't vote for this. They voted for other women to be treated this way. Whores. Sluts.

Not them. Because they are Christian and blessed™.

Their husbands/boyfriends/pastors will never treat them that way.

Until they do and then they'll be Pikachu face.

[–] disgrunty@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

"The leopards would never eat my face!" smh

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I think some percentage of them voted for "but the price of mah eggs and bacon" bullshit, too and put their head in the sand on any of the many blinking lights around donnie and friends...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

Until they do and then they’ll be Pikachu face.

Unfortunately, they will just internalize it and convince themselves that it was something they did to prompt it.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

And voted for it

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The fact that they are complete morons doesn't mean they want to be treated this way. It is a case for the leopards, but saying this is not helpful to the potential victims from both camps.

Please, keep your empathy for women in general, they're going to need it now more than ever.

[–] darharrison@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

No empathy for anyone who voted for this and gets burned. The hard truth is they want the subjugation to happen. Otherwise they would have voted for anyone else.

Lemmy is such an echo chamber that the terminally online here can't fathom the idea of someone voting against their own interests. But go out and talk to some people, you'll find them.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I believe there are such people. But I don't believe the female republican voter group is homogeneous.

The world is a colourful and diverse place. There are not only people wanting to be subjugated, but also those who are braindead, absolutely uninformed, scared shitless by propaganda, too naive to believe in the existence of evil... it takes all kinds to make a world.

I don't think stupid people deserve bad things to happen to them, even though they often bring it on themselves as well as on others.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I hear them all the time. My wife talked to a lesbian who was MAGA. It just makes no sense - this women thinks she'll live in a "safe" state (meaning, blue) but wants cheaper groceries.

That's not how any of this works.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Sigh yeah we’ve got those dumbasses

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

I hear them all the time. My wife talked to a lesbian who was MAGA. It just makes no sense - this women thinks she’ll live in a “safe” state (meaning, blue) but wants cheaper groceries.

Can we just have a mass extinction event before January 20?

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

If they didn't want to be treated this way by people who loudly stated that they were going to treat them that way then they shouldn't have elected people who loudly and unabashedly told them that they were going to codify treating them that way.

I've got empathy in spades for women of color, they were allies, white women though, very little sympathy and should be called out for betraying other women and the rest of us.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

"If you want roses, one must mind the thorns."

They voted for a racist, rapist with felony convictions and a pending prison sentence.

They may have not wanted to be treated like property but they are going to be. And if they don't like that, they can leave....except the very people they voted for are removing the ability for women to leave their husbands.

And even if they leave, even if they get to a safe place, I fucking guarantee you that they will still vote for Republicans.

If you want to give those women empathy, by all means. These women are about to experience fascism in a way they have never seen before. But don't think for a second they wouldn't vote for it again because of their values™.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When I was a kid we called incels, "fucking losers". Can we go back to that?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We still do, but also, "incel" is shorthand for "fucking loser".

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As opposed to slut which is a fucking winner

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Alt: idiot and ex-president George Bush Jr who helped Trump achieve a position of vast power pointing out how weird he was acting at the swearing in in 2017

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If history is any indication - remember how ANGRY the qons were the last time their precious donvict "won"? There were explosions of their rage all over the place, and that's after they supposedly "won". Just what they thought they won, who the hell knows. And even after four years, it seems almost none of them figured out that he did jack squat for them.

They are poised to get even less laid than they get now. :) Combine that with their slow realization that, no, there is no one that is going to praise them just because their loser is in office, and indeed, the mockery is going to increase, and they are going to be vewy, vewy angry. Aw, sad emoji.

[–] immutable@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yea I remember this same thing. He won and they were even angrier.

Because it’s not like trump being in the White House is suddenly going to make women not be immediately repelled when they show up, mansplain Joe Rogan, and call her a femoid.

They fell for it again. This time he’s really really gonna make it great. Him and jd Vance have some really novel ideas about lowering the age women can get married and making it impossible to get divorced, so finally they can have a child bride or some shit.

It’s super gross and I hope they end up jerking it to trump fanfic every night crying themselves to sleep.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He won and they were even angrier.

You'll notice the same thing happened when the caught the car with that repealing 50 years of settled law when it came to Roe, too. They were fucking LIVID. I ran into many instances of this IRL. One raging Karen was practically crying she was so hopping mad. I mean, this is someone that would embrace compelled religious (xtian of course, and only THEIR kind of xtianity, naturally) attendance and teaching of their xtianity in public schools.

I let her rage on for a bit, then calmly asked her - but isn't this what you people WANTED? Total incoherent answer, just about sobbing about how this would galvanize those people that hate the donvict, hate (their) god, and so on....

[–] immutable@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I do sometimes wonder if it’s a skill issue, but that feels like a really dangerously self serving position to take, that people that disagree with me are just too dumb.

I like to think that I’m a relatively smart person, I have a very technical job and there’s very few situations where I don’t understand what’s going on (although there’s definitely plenty). Sometime though I’ll be out and about in my life and meet people that just don’t seem to have any idea how extremely basic, to me at least, things work. How does compounding interest work, how does insurance work, why should I put money into a retirement account. Not fresh adults either, people in their 30s / 40s / 50s who just seem content not understanding relatively basic things.

The world preys on these people, if someone doesn’t understand compound interest then you can really bamboozle them. If you don’t see the value of having insurance because you work out and are “healthy” and then suddenly get cancer or some other disease that doesn’t give a shit about how much you can bench, you are fucked.

There is a part of me that thinks that for a lot of people the world is a confusing and unknowable mystery. I mean, it’s not really, but the amount of effort to figure those things out is just too high for them to give a shit. And I think about how weird it would be to go through life like that. At the mercy of forces you don’t understand, and then some guy comes up and says “everything’s fucked up but I can make it great” and because you already don’t know how shit works you think “awesome, because I’m drowning in medical debt because I didn’t think I needed insurance and got screwed over”

I think about this person I met once, I was building planning and projection software and their job was to perform projection calculations for inventory ordering. I watched, in horror, as they tabbed away from excel to manually add up some figures. This is excel, what are you doing?! I showed them the sum function thinking that they would be happy. Then they looked at me and said “that’s too complicated, I’ll just do it myself”

Wild, that was too complicated. It taught me an important lesson though about how everyone’s bar for complicated is different. I think for a lot of people “how does insurance work” is too complicated. “What’s a tariff and how does it work” is too complicated. So it just comes down to “do I trust the person talking”

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

That's why the Heritage Foundation is going to reclassify rape as a property crime against the woman's father or husband.

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do angry incels want to spend more on electronics?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

They look forward to buying robot wives, so...yeah. And yeah, those will probably have very high tariffs if those sexbots are going to be bought under donnie's regime.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

angry incels

Was “conservatives” too many letters?

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

All that power and they still can't get laid.

Be even shittier, surely it will work eventually.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What is their "power" going to be, anyway? Is donnie promising a pussy in every pot?

I think these just might be jerking off more often because this excites them so much....not sure what donnie dumbfuck is going to do for any of them other than thinking they can lord something over women....but they still aren't getting laid. 🤣

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait until porn is banned...

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They might want to stock up on some of the old-fashioned kind, or set up a private media server and hope their fellow wingers don't rat them out to the Sons of Jacob.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

trumps win has given incels even more stupidity than they were born with

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think they're born with it so much as born immediately into it. They have fucked up relationships to women because of their fucked up relationship to their mothers, and fucked up attraction styles because of whatever relations were modeled for them right from the first months. No doubt many of their fathers are also insufferable assholes, of whom their mothers were victims. They were raised this way, and encouraged by rage-bait media, foreign and domestic.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

doesnt justify their behaviour

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Not at all.

[–] OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

Given perceived power, the law and moral standards of decency will be there whether they know it or not.

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