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[–] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Wouldn't 50% of them die at the same time as the creatures that they live inside? Like unexisting 50% of humans would in fact unexist 50% of the bacteria in the humans who went poof.

How does this argument make sense?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Each bacteria is an individual living organism. So I'm guessing that (within this framework) the humans disappeared, but only ~50% (it would average out to 50% across the entire population) of their gut biome (or I guess any other living organism within them) disappeared.

And as such, in people who did not disappear, ~50% (on avg) of their gut biome also disappeared.

The math checks out...

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 3 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago)

Thanos' plan was unmitigated garbage anyway.

Humanity reached 4M in 1975 and hit 8M in 2022. On that basis, if half of humanity died when Thanos snapped his fingers 50 years later we'd be back to 8M people again.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 21 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

E. Coli reproduces so fast that a population can double in size in half an hour, and human feces is 50% bacteria by weight.

If your gut microbiome got snapped it'd be back so fast you wouldn't even notice. Bacteria are kinda scary.

[–] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, worst case scenario stock prices for probiotic yoghurt would increase.

[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Wait, do you have a source for the 50% number?

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Is virus alive? We have tons of those as well.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No, viruses don't mean the scientific definition of life. IIRC, the primary reason why is because, in order to make copies of itself, it must hijack a living cell's reproductive system to do so. It can't simply divide to make more of itself.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 hour ago

That's a very good point! Thank you!

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago

Come to think about it, whenever a macroscopic organism - ie animals - died it would leave behind about half the microbes living on and in them. When those poor fools got dusted it should have left a puddle of horrible slime on the ground.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

See... see this is the story content that belongs in the extended cut.

[–] don@lemm.ee 32 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Or the 50% of all people that got snapped took 50% of the gut bacteria with them, leaving the rest with no loss to their gut biomes. (taps forehead)

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

or the survivors lost all but bacteria, and the remainders were left over in places of the snapped people

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

Ohh so that's what the dust is. The leftover gut bacteria.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 12 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (5 children)

Does that mean for the people that got snapped, some will leave some of their sperm behind?

And pregnant woman might leave their fetus behind.

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 96 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Killing 50% of your gut bacteria is a big nothing.

These things reproduce on the timescale of hours.

I kill 90% of my sourdough starter every time I feed it, and it bounces back the same day.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have been on antibiotics that wiped out most of my gut bacteria. It was easy to upset my stomach for a few months, then I was fine.

[–] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 7 points 15 hours ago

I had the same experience with norovirus this spring.

Probiotics did the trick, but it was t so much fun.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 15 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanos' snap wouldn't kill 50% of each survivors' gut microbiome, it would kill 50% of all the lil buggies that compromise all gut microbiomes, and if the snap effects individuals randomly, you'd see a normal distribution (I think, I haven't taken stats in a decade). So some survivors would retain 100% of their microbiome, some would lose it all, with a bell curve in between, probably with the peak around 50%.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 17 points 13 hours ago

That bell curve would be extremely narrow. You have so many lil buggies that basically every human survivor would lose ~50% buggies.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 147 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

That would imply that 50 percent of the snapped people's biomes remained behind. All of the produce in the grocery stores would be covered in an airborne mist of E. coli, and snapped surgeons that were mid-operation would give their patients staph infections, assuming the suriviving surgery team was able to stablize and close them up before they died anyway. Neat.

Also when those snapped people returned with the half of their biomes that also got snapped, you would get a sequel to the diarrhea. Diarrhea 2: Electric Boogapoo.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 49 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

Do viruses get snapped too or na

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 45 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Do viruses get snapped too or na

And da babies in-utero? Did the Infinity Gauntlet go by conception or 24-weeks?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 32 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

There were zero reports I've heard from any TV, movie, or comic reference to the snap of unborn (but possibly viable) babies being left behind (by any species even) when the pregnant mother disappeared in the snap. That suggests the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't consider the unborn as a separate individual until birth.

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 19 hours ago

unborn (but possibly viable) babies being left behind (by any species even) when the pregnant mother disappeared in the snap.

This scenario didn't even enter my head when I posed the question. That's some Stephen King-level imagery though—a snapped mother disappearing only for an amniotic sac to drop in her place.

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

You've opened your inbox to a scientific debate that has raged since virology began.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 28 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Finally someone asks the real question. Is there an objective definition to life that Virus may or may not fall under? Or would it depend on Thano's subjective opinion on the matter?

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I want the show where the snapped people come back and then the survivors have to awkwardly explain that they have gotten remarried and otherwise moved on.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

They must've done it in the hyperbolic time chamber.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

That actually happens in some of the TV series from that story arc.

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[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 6 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

As someome who is fucking stupid, what ghe hell is a gut biome and why would 50% of the world population disappearing affect it at all? And why would people be power blasting their bathrooms with diarrhea

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Your gut is full of friendly bacteria that help you digest your food and keep everything running smoothly and efficiency. This vast community of bacteria is called a gut microbiome. People with gut problems like inflammatory bowel disease and irritable bowel syndrome tend to have a much less diverse gut micribiome. Taking a broad spectrum antibiotic can devastate your gut microbiome, letting the bad bacteria thrive while the good ones are offstage, sometimes leading to some of the same symptoms that people with IBD and IBS might encounter, and it can take months to recover.

Killing 50% of all living things might include 50% of gut microbia, resulting in the potential for bloating, gassiness, stomach cramps, and potentially diarrhoea.

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ahhh that makes sense. Thank you for this explanation, I appreciate it very much.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

You're very welcome.

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[–] lowleveldata@lemmy.world 44 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

50% of all ≠ 50% per person

[–] xXSirDanglesXx@lemmy.world 26 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Right? Taking even the people who disappeared into account, and their gut biomes, would you not consider them all as part of all life?

If so, there may be some survivors with all of their guy biomes perfectly intact, and others who get unfortunately zilched.

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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Do the HeLa cells all die together, or do only half of them die?

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