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[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 49 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Do viruses get snapped too or na

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 45 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Do viruses get snapped too or na

And da babies in-utero? Did the Infinity Gauntlet go by conception or 24-weeks?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 32 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

There were zero reports I've heard from any TV, movie, or comic reference to the snap of unborn (but possibly viable) babies being left behind (by any species even) when the pregnant mother disappeared in the snap. That suggests the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't consider the unborn as a separate individual until birth.

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 19 hours ago

unborn (but possibly viable) babies being left behind (by any species even) when the pregnant mother disappeared in the snap.

This scenario didn't even enter my head when I posed the question. That's some Stephen King-level imagery though—a snapped mother disappearing only for an amniotic sac to drop in her place.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 15 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Following that logic conjoined twins would either both be snapped or neither would.

[–] match@pawb.social 7 points 15 hours ago

imagine the stone suddenly surgically removing your conjoined twin but leaving you with a typical body afterwards. then 5 years later your twin - now noticably younger and alien to you - is reattached

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I think the Gauntlet counted any beings that either depended on another to live or supported another to live as all one unit for simplicity's sake.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

I would love a comic series where each Infinity Stone has a representative entity of some kind and we get to see the "thought process" each goes through in fulfilling the request of its wielder. I'm envisioning a format like the Pixar movie "Inside Out" except each stone's entity is very judgy on how the wielder is using it.

"Ugh, Goddamit Dr Strange, how many more times do you want to do this Dormamu thing. Its getting really repetitive." - Time stone

Or when multiple stones have to work together, they have to hash out what each is going to do to fulfill the desired wish. The conversation between all the stones during "the snap" being the longest and most complicated conversation with questions coming up like "okay Mr Soul Stone smart guy, what about pregnant women?! Is that one soul or two, huh?"

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

And da babies in-utero? Did the Infinity Gauntlet go by conception or 24-weeks?

Now you got this idea in my head, if it would have been possible to know if the Infinity Gauntlet considered conception, couldn't a species, lets say humans, knowing "the snap" was a possible risk, create massive stores of zygotes kept on ice? Lets say 10 zygotes to every 1 living human. After the snap of "half" that would mean that instead of 50% of humans disappearing it would only have been 2.5%.

Moreover, since every other species would have lost 50% and been in chaos it would have been prime opportunity to conquer other species still in disarray.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Why would zygotes get dusted at a higher rate than adults?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Same rate, but higher * total number* of zygotes dusted because there would be far more zygotes than grown humans.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Now I'd love to see a story about a species that has huge numbers of young but also incredibly high infant mortality. So in the snap they mostly lost a bunch of kids who were going to die anyway. Then they decide to take advantage and invade their neighbors, and Captain Marvel comes to help.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You've opened your inbox to a scientific debate that has raged since virology began.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 5 points 16 hours ago

I’m just here to remind you we’re all makin’ durty with your inbox this evening [bowchickawowow…].

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 28 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Finally someone asks the real question. Is there an objective definition to life that Virus may or may not fall under? Or would it depend on Thano's subjective opinion on the matter?

[–] BenReilly97@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

The scientific definition of life changes constantly, but viruses more often than not fall under "not alive."

Throughout, viruses have rarely been considered alive. More than 120 definitions of life exist today, and most require metabolism, a set of chemical reactions that produce energy. Viruses do not metabolize. They also don’t fit some other common criteria. They do not have cells. They cannot reproduce independently. Viruses are inert packages of DNA or RNA that cannot replicate without a host cell.

Source

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

technically viruses aren't alive. They just use cellular machinery to replicate and thats it.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Eh, it's not really that cut and dry. You could debate either way with plenty of evidence, in the end it's really a limit to the semantics of language

Edit: here's a neat article that talks about it

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Thats pretty neat "you cant kill something thats not alive". Can viruses respond to stimuli? We consider bacteria alive but viruses are debated, wheres the line? are enzymes alive? Are prions alive? cool article.