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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] heluecht@pirati.ca 28 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

@hedge BTW: There is an update to the terms of service as well that implies that you cannot opt out of providing training data to their AI.

[–] Teils13@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

i think everything everywhere in the internet will be put to training AI at this point. Lemmy and other FOSS will be used too, but at least our data is public and accessible to everyone equally (including to some FOSS AI that i hope emerges), not a private property of someone.

[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago

Lol, good that you pointed it out. The only real way is apparently only self hosting foss

[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 71 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anyone who still uses Twitter either condones what Musk has done and is doing, or is completely oblivious.

I long for the day it dies the death it deserves and Musk is left holding the bag having to pay all the debt. If only he’d be forced to do that, but like all rich assholes, he’ll get out of it somehow.

[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 hours ago

Presumably by declaring bankruptcy, like his new daddy

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Like Reddit, the only reason I'm still on Twitter from time to time is niche hobbies that don't have critical mass on the fediverse yet.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You could try starting those niche communities here instead of giving free content for Spez to monetize.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 134 points 1 day ago

“One of the biggest functions of blocking is giving women the ability to stop weird men from constantly making them uncomfortable and scared,” one user wrote. “So of course Elon had to change that.”

They buried the lede a bit there, but that's pretty much it.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 101 points 1 day ago (3 children)

“One of the biggest functions of blocking is giving women the ability to stop weird men from constantly making them uncomfortable and scared,” one user wrote. “So of course Elon had to change that.”

Given how he constantly tries to insert himself and his opinions into everything he sees, it's clear he has no idea about how consent works, nor why people don't want him in their lives.

Consent doesn't matter to rich people. It's not exclusive to Musk.

[–] Butterbee@beehaw.org 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I honestly don't think it's a matter of him not understanding how consent works and more of a matter that he sees consent as something that gets in his way.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 day ago

Or maybe just refuses to fathom that other people could not want to talk to him. If he has a psych file I'm sure it's darkly fascinating.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Rather people have no idea how blocking on 𝕏 worked/works. You were ALWAYS able to see tweets from people that blocked you by simply logging out or using an alt account.

I don’t understand all this fuss about this simple change. He only removes a useless feature that was never more than a minor inconvenience for those that got blocked.

If you don’t want people to see your tweets, lock your profile. This worked before and this still works just fine.

[–] pre@fedia.io 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

@mbirth@lemmy.ml And yet that minor inconvenience is enough of a hurdle that Musk thinks he has to get rid of it. Following a profile logged-out is impossible now, and alt-accounts are a pain to maintain. I'd wager that in way over half of the cases where someone is blocked, they do in fact then never see the blocker's posts because they don't run alts or view logged out.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Following a profile logged-out is impossible now

What do you mean? I can just open an Incognito tab and go to x.com/ and see all posts (without replies, though).

because they don't run alts

I think you underestimate the dedication of some of those trolls. Also, most apps allow to easily switch between profiles with like 2 taps.

[–] pre@fedia.io 2 points 5 hours ago

@mbirth@lemmy.ml "Some of them", sure.

Which is not 90% of them. It's the exceptions.

If a block-button stopping read-ability works in 80% of the cases, it's better than one that works in zero percent of the cases.

Look at twitter.com/@elonmusk in a private tab.

Most of the posts you see are from 2022!?

The block button on Twitter has gone from 80% effective to 0% effective.

Well done Musk. Well done.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 16 hours ago

If anything, this stops giving people the illusion of privacy when they block people.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You were ALWAYS able to see tweets from people that blocked you by simply logging out or using an alt account.

Well, yeah. It's a different account. That's how accounts work. Do you think one account blocking someone should result in every account blocking them too?

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Having a public (i.e. not locked) Twit𝕏 account and believing you can block single people is a bit stupid to begin with.

When screaming on a market square, you can’t demand for single people to “please not listen” to what you’re screaming.

[–] Butterbee@beehaw.org 16 points 1 day ago

When I block someone I do not care if they see what I post. I just do not want them to be able to interact with it. I don't want to see them. I don't want their opinion. But it's fine if they want to spend their energy fuming about whatever I post. Or more likely, simply who I am.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Locking your front door won't keep someone out who really wants to get in.

Is that stupid, too?

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Well, I don't use Twitter. So that's all you.
But blocking accounts have been a thing for decades. It's not a new concept.

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simply logging out or using an alt account

It is increasingly difficult to use X without an account. Not sure what the signup process is like nowadays. IIRC it used to require phone number verification in the Twitter days, but perhaps Musk relaxed the requirements in order to better pad the usage stats with spambots?

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago

or, even better: delete twitter altogether

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 108 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Hope some of them go to Mastadon.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know Imani Gandy is now posting on mastodon. She had an enormous following on Twitter.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah it really actually only takes a couple of big users moving to Mastodon to cause a domino effect of a mass migration. I hope more people with tons of followers start moving over.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The problem is that people won’t move until their audience there and their audience won’t move until they are there.

And mastodon is a bit less straightforward compared to old Twitter.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mastodon is also somewhat hostile towards new users. Significant swaths of it treat this shared public network as a small private chatroom, and get cranky when September stretches on too long.

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does Mastodon have the blocking features that Bluesky has (like lists, blocks stopping quote reply chains, etc)?

Other than on Blahaj, I’ve never found a place more chill to be queer online once you apply a couple of well maintained block lists.

[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you need the feature set of Bluesky and can’t use Mastodon, please also follow https://fed.brid.gy/ if you can. This will allow Mastodon users to follow you from the Fediverse.

[–] Fitik@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago

As far as I'm aware, Mastodon blocks work the same way they'll work on Twitter now - The person you blocked can see your posts, but can't interact with you

Edit: Actually, I was wrong the person you blocked can't see your posts on Mastodon

[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If they don’t, please also follow https://fed.brid.gy/ so your BlueSky account is federated to Mastodon. If you move to Threads, please turn on Fediverse integration.

It’s so frustrating, between Mastodon, Bluesky and Threads almost every person I used to follow on Twitter exists somewhere else. But only about half of them are accessible in any one platform.

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

changing how its “block” button works. That option previously allowed users to hide their profile from certain accounts – but will no longer do so.

So I guess all that stuff they did to lock down the ability to see things on Xitter without an account was strictly for evil then

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

who knew that removing the block feature and "Twitter's new ToS says all disputes will be heard in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas located in Tarrant County (Tesla investor Reed O'Connor's court)" were not going to be winners among the remaining userbase

[–] heluecht@pirati.ca 9 points 1 day ago

@alyaza @hedge Funny side note: This rule with the disputes is not valid for residents of the EU due to their regulations. There an Irish court is responsible.

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[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well it's "allegedly" decentralized, which should solve this by design...

[–] heluecht@pirati.ca 1 points 16 hours ago

@hedge @moon Bluesky has got only one central component, the directory. The web interface at bsky.app is only one of multiple web interfaces. The data itself is hosted in several distributed personal data servers and you can setup and host your own as well.

This "Bluesky is offline" message is similar to some "Mastodon is offline", when only mastodon.social is offline and all other servers are running.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 15 points 1 day ago
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