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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 51 points 5 months ago (1 children)

“With Coca Cola, for example, they said: Why should we use a glass that doesn't break? We make money with our glasses. […] The dealers said understandably: Who would saw off the branch he was sitting on?”

Capitalism strikes again

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Isn't this similar to the light bulb situation? Whereby making light-bulbs more fragile, and less reliable they increase the sales profits?

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Phoebus cartel, the beginnings of planned obsolescence.

The amazing thing is how not only did a long lasting light bulb get designed early on, but that the later bulbs were designed to fail specifically after a given point (1000 hours). That's precision.

I also blame Edward Bernays, the father of consumerism/consumption.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

"Torches of Freedom" lol

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

I found this to be a great video discussing why lightbulbs are engineered the way they are. TLDR: reducing lifespan increases efficiency and light quality

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They used to simply last longer, too. Fragility be damned.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I miss the days when LED light bulbs were basically forever lived.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I want to start a company that focuses on creating shit that lasts. Ain't nobody getting rich off of my company, but the people get goods that they'll never have to replace, basically. Sadly I've got ADD so this will never happen, I'm sorry y'all.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Flummoxed@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, it's the thought that counts.

[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Cheap drivers that drive the cheap LED modules too hot without enough cooling.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have a set of these and one of them got broken by a moving company in the ultimate irony.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

"Challenge accepted!" -your mover

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The lightbulbs thing was (possibly) different. There's some physical limits on the performance of lightbulbs so the time to failure test was more of a proxy to make sure bulbs of a certain wattage were outputting similar strength and color light.

https://youtu.be/zb7Bs98KmnY?si=UQzU-Vn2E01Bs4sm

I don't know if there were other reasons this glass tech didn't catch on besides the obvious capitalism issues, but the lightbulb thing is definitely a misunderstood piece of trivia.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Ha I knew someone would bring up Tech Connections. Both vids feature fascinating science history!

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Also has led to a vibrant market for old Pyrex, made with borosilicate before they switched to soda-lime. Borosilicate is generally much more resistant to thermal shock (though there are some advantages to soda lime, but the big reason is that it's cheaper)

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago

I discovered the difference the hard way in college when I shattered a pyrex measuring cup by pouring boiling water into it. Four cups of boiling water and glass shards everywhere!

[–] Plum@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Look for PYREX, not pyrex. They switched over in the 1990s, but sometimes you can get lucky at thrift stores.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Some German engineered more efficient ways to drink beer with indestructible glass? That dude probably got turbo laid.

[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Now make phonescreens with that glass!

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

As the article mentions, Gorilla Glass is actually made via a similar process!

[–] Leeks@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I can’t find anywhere that sells this type of glass any more.