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There's truly only one choice (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 months ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/rpgmemes@ttrpg.network

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[–] teft@lemmy.world 60 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Uh…counterspell?

Best spell in the game.

Edit: also for clerics i’d pick spirit guardians over everything.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Playing a druid currently and I couldn't count the number of vile glares I've gotten from the DM as I utter "I cast Dispell Magic"...

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Spore Druid and Call Lightning is absolutely amazing. A level 3+ spell that you can cast infinite times without expending further spell slots? Oh hell yes, please!

[–] bam13302@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 months ago

Works great for moon druids too, to give them a ranged option in wild shape.

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't pick Counterspell because I don't want to piss off my DM.

[–] luxyr42@lemmy.dormedas.com 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My current wizard character didn't take counterspell until the dm sent a wizard at us with it first. He had no one to blame but himself.

[–] milkisklim@lemm.ee 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a house rule where a counter spelled counter spell is nullified but causes a roll on the wild magic table for both casters.

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

That is a great idea!

[–] teft@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Mutually assured destruction. I like it.

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They need to think more creatively. You're now focused on countering the enemy caster, and the party might be more distracted helping you to clear out the threat.

This is the perfect opportunity to take advantage of, and put some nice pressure down.

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah, the group where I play the caster who could take Counterspell has a fairly green DM and I just don't want to stress him out more by thwarting his plans.

With a veteran DM? Boy I am fucking them every which way front, back and sideways with creatively misused utility spells.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

A player having access to counterspell is need-to-know DM information just like a player having access to flight is. It can and should be planned around.

Also, if the player and DM are into it, escalate the arms race, start having enemies prepare counterspells. Lots of interesting casters have it on their lists but DMs are afraid to use it to its full potential. Players would do it to enemies all day long but when the tables are turned, nobody ever forgets what it's like to have the enemy lich counterspell their heal.

[–] Brutticus@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Hypnotic Pattern. Damage is for chumps. Mass save or suck for me