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[–] Nevrome@lemmy.ca 118 points 8 months ago (4 children)

As someone from outside the USA, I'm surprised a state flag looks this good. I dig it.

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 72 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There has been a recent movement of states with bad flags trying to improve their image. Illinois might be next and I'm quite excited about it as it's long overdue!

[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 18 points 8 months ago

I thought, "Doesn't Illinois have one of the few good state flags?"

Nope, I was thinking of the city flag of Chicago. The state flag is literally just the state crest on a white background. It would absolutely benefit from a redesign. :p

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

There's actually a few nice ones. Check out New Mexico, one of my personal favourites.

[–] FederatedSaint@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think NM is ok, but we Coloradoans fuckin' LOVE our flag.

[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

Best looking flag to ever be on a Subaru.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 5 points 8 months ago

...new mexico's current flag is one of the very best, and certainly beats the heck out of their laughable first effort...

Wow that's... different

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's no California Bear, but it's up there

[–] Jennykichu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 months ago

The bear is great but the fact that they label it "CALIFORNIA" in big block letters makes me laugh every time I see it. It's like a child drawing.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

https://lemmy.world/comment/8300053

All good things in America should be treated with suspicion

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's not uncommon to have religious symbolism in flags. 🇦🇨🇦🇫🇧🇲🇦🇺🇦🇮🇧🇻🇮🇪🇬🇧🇸🇦🇫🇮🇫🇴🇸🇪🇮🇶🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Just a quick glance through flag emojis for some.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Love that someone downvoted this

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Probably for implying that "we're going to conquer the world for our religion that was specifically racist until 2013 and abolish the separation of church and state" is the same thing as a cross or moon.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait until you hear about Islam 🇮🇶🇸🇦

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna be real with you chief, of all the things you can accuse fundamentalist Muslims of racism isn't really one them (the faith actually demands anti-racism... For the Faithful TM), and everything else they do Mormons can match.

Weird hangups about drugs? Yup.

Patriarchal polygamy? Yeppers.

Wanting to establish a global theocracy? You know it.

Weirdly obsessed with a desert city? Damn skippy.

So, idk, seems like a pretty clear victor there on the checklist. Anti-racism zealotry is better than specifically racist zealotry.

Also, just saying, a Muslim has never tried to convert me door to door.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The faith isn't racist. You just have to do Arab rituals, wear Arab clothing, pray in Arabic, and the only proper way to read the Qur'an is if you know Arabic. Oh and also make a pilgrimage to Arabia.

Although I do concede that Mormonism is worse with the fabrication that the mark of cain is upon non white people, and that Islam doesn't really call for discrimination against other races.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Although I do concede that Mormonism is worse with the fabrication that the mark of cain is upon non white people, and that Islam doesn’t really call for discrimination against other races.

I don't know about minority Mormon sects, but Latter-day Saints do not believe in the "mark of Cain" and do not believe in racial discrimination. We're pretty big on the "Golden Rule".

A recent sermon by one of the leaders of the Church on the topic: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2022/10/28christofferson?lang=eng#p7

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Fair enough, my bad

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

we’re going to conquer the world for our religion that was specifically racist until 2013

It's still plenty racist.

abolish the separation of church and state

In Utah, its functionally non-existent. You don't win city dog catcher if the electorate thinks you're somehow anti-Mormon. You won't be appointed to anything, either.

the same thing as a cross or moon

Go back to when those flags were originally stitched up and you're going to find evangelical views remarkably similar to that of modern Mormons. Religious supremacy is at the heart of virtually every major surviving world religion. Putting a big cross on your flag and going out to conquer your religious rivals goes back to Constantine the Great.

It absolutely means the same thing.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago

The beehive isn't the significant religious symbol to Latter-day Saints that you think it is. Those of us not from Utah barely know about the symbol's relationship to the history of the Church.