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[–] anzo@programming.dev 71 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

There's a deGoogled version too!!

I would prefer GrapheneOS (If I can live with the irony of getting a Pixel phone just to deGoogle it...). Sandboxing there is way better. But you lose the Repairability.. Gotta check and compare the new EU metrics too.

They are just two different devices.

[–] Mora@pawb.social 25 points 3 weeks ago

I not only want a degoogled version but also a secure one. Sadly developing a secure android is rather hard. The Graphene team does it pretty well. Others try it too, but sadly they are not close.

[–] ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Degoogled version is €50 more, for whatever reason

[–] anzo@programming.dev 63 points 3 weeks ago

the reason: support for developers. You can install it yourself to save that amount.

[–] pinesolcario@lemy.lol 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

People don’t want to pay for privacy. That’s the real problem with end users. Imagine if more people did so. What a world we could have. Nah. Let’s be cheap AF!

[–] proceduralnightshade@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Locking privacy behind a paywall? Sounds like a nightmare.

That’s the real problem with end users.

The real problem with end users is that they buy according to whatever needs corpos inject via advertising.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Like Kagi for web searching.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Because the built in software is usually there because the manufacturer is receiving money from the software company. That's why consumer devices are always bloated with garbage.

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I bet PostmarketOS will release for it

[–] Quik@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why do you think so? We still don't have proper support for the Fairphone 4 on pmOS, why'd the 6 be any better?

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Because as you said it is available in some capacity already. Plus people complain about the slow speed of the 4 so maybe people will want to develop quicker for the 6. I could be totally wrong but I'm hopeful

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We know GrapheneOS only makes their OS on Pixel phones or whatever their own device will be so it's moot

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thats because pixels fit the rigid standards, if Fairphone met them they would make a version for them

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 11 points 3 weeks ago

That would be great but that's just not the way it is unfortunately

[–] anzo@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

Just an update, I learnt that GrapheneOS developers are 'aggressive' towards other FLOSS projects (following comments on other thread, but you can searx grepheneos+controversy and see for yourselves).

So now, I might just prefer an FP6.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

is the bootloader locked with eos?

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it really de-googled if it still runs Android?

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

the degoogled roms like eos calyx lineage graphene are not just aosp zero work roms with no gapps inclueded. the devs do work on changing as much google related code as they can even within aosp. nothing is perfect obviously, but im pretty sure there are compatible mobile linux distros even.