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[–] Panties@lemmy.ca 202 points 3 weeks ago (52 children)

No earphone jack again. That's a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It's just a small inconvenience

[–] Laser@feddit.org 56 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

I had a phone without before, that one came with a simple cheap passive adapter for USB-C to 3.5mm headset. You lose out on using headphones while charging, but other than that I was never really inconvenienced...

[–] warm@kbin.earth 83 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

After having a phone without a 3.5mm port or a microSD card slot, the top 2 features I want on a phone are a 3.5mm port and a microSD card slot.

Shame Sony discontinued their Xperia 5 series, even if they were also excessively priced.

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[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

I disagree about this being a good solution. USB-C is not meant to take the strain of being used as an audio port when being used in the go so there is risk of damaging the port while a headphone jack is more stable and allows the plug to rotate. Plus I don't want to have a dingle I can forget when in a rush.

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You also have to remember to have that adapter with you

[–] Laser@feddit.org 26 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

An issue shared with the headphones themselves

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 46 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (21 children)

Not having a headphone jack is just a slap in the face from a company whose whole image is supposed to be longevity and eco-friendly.

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[–] anzo@programming.dev 71 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

There's a deGoogled version too!!

I would prefer GrapheneOS (If I can live with the irony of getting a Pixel phone just to deGoogle it...). Sandboxing there is way better. But you lose the Repairability.. Gotta check and compare the new EU metrics too.

They are just two different devices.

[–] Mora@pawb.social 25 points 3 weeks ago

I not only want a degoogled version but also a secure one. Sadly developing a secure android is rather hard. The Graphene team does it pretty well. Others try it too, but sadly they are not close.

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[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 62 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

It's too bad they dont ship to Canada. I'm in the market for a new phone and would seriously consider this.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 weeks ago

The state of mobile phone market in Canada is so frustrating. Not only is our market dominated by 3 players who refuse to actually compete with each other, but we miss out on half the cool phones that the rest of the world gets too.

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[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (28 children)

Why does The Fairphone (Gen. 6) not have an audio jack?

After some of the criticism that we received about removing the headphone jack from Fairphone 4, we did consider bringing it back for The Fairphone (Gen. 6). However, we realized it would be at the expense of increasing the phone’s dimensions. We also looked into the consumer data and Fairphone 4’s weight and thickness were more of an issue than the lack of a minijack, so we decided to keep the same approach, although it was a difficult decision. We didn’t want to invest in OLED technology for the display and then not have improved the phone’s dimensions and weight. But just like with Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 5, we will still offer an adapter, which has had overall positive user reviews.

"We heard the criticism but decided that no, you would still need an adapter to use headphones, plus a USB-C hub to be able to charge the damn thing while listening to music or watching videos"

Funny how that's the same excuses that we get for modern laptops terrible design. "We HAVE to make it thinner so there's no space! You wouldn't want a laptop that's not complete shit if it meant it'd also be less thin and breakable, now would you?"

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 164 points 3 weeks ago (62 children)

Let me expand, as I usually deal with surveys and population feedback. There's loud feedback, and there's statistically significant feedback.

People who want a headphone jack are very loud. They will interject this issue into every feedback opportunity given. They will mention it on the comment sections, forums, q&a sessions, answer their surveys accordingly, etc. That's all fine and their prerogative.

However, when you look at the statistics. They are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population. They are not statistically significant for decision making. They don't have the volume to move sales significantly. This sucks, of course, and I personally wouldn't mind the return of headphone jacks, smaller phones and bigger batteries as a fair trade for thicker phones.

But unfortunately, the vast majority of the market is pre-occupied with other things. The phone screen is too small, the phone weights too much, the phone is too thick, I want to bring my phone to the pool without fear of it breaking, etc. They are not as passionate about it, not like the headphone people are, but they far outnumber them in several orders of magnitude. In the end, if the product doesn't sell, it won't matter how much it was worth to a single passionate person. It will sink the company if it doesn't have mass appeal. Making phones is already an extremely expensive endeavor.

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[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Very strange how mine can somehow fit a 7000mAh battery, dual SIM + SD card slot and a regular jack. Hmm...

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 25 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Is it repairable only with a screwdriver and parts you can buy from the manufacturer?

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[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Interesting that they seem to be using a consumer grade Snapdragon chip this time, typically they used weird chips ment for industry applications if I'm not mistaken. Wonder what sparked the change, did Qualcomm start supporting their chips for longer?

[–] tinsuke@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Probably yes.

And probably due to EU mandating new phones to be supported for longer.

https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en

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[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Snapdragon 7s Gen3 is a pretty decent chipset. Decent display too. 8GB RAM is a bit on the low side. Camera is all about how good processing is. It's not that crazy expensive if all works well and considering what their goal is.

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[–] swagmoney@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)
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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I just want them to make a true flagship phone. I personally wouldn't mind paying extra for a more ethical phone, if it had all the bells and whistles and wasn't half obsolete straight out of the box.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 30 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

FP would be a good choice for Graphene.

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[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If they are all about swappable parts, and being able to upgrade your phone how you want ... Shouldn't this just be a module upgrade... Of the main part? Maybe I don't understand it ... At the very least the old parts should work with the new system right? Unless something major has changed.

[–] ayane@lemmy.vg 31 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Exactly. Framework does it correctly; fairphone does not.

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[–] srasmus@slrpnk.net 27 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Did some digging, but it doesn't appear the band compatibility with US carriers is improved at all. Am I wrong here?

[–] logi@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Would that be a problem when travelling to the... oh, right, we're not doing that anymore... would this be a problem for Europeans travelling to Canada?

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[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (18 children)

I would totally buy one of these if they were sold in the US. Sadly, last time I checked the newest phone wasn't sold here. So I doubt this one will be.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Worth noting buying a second hand phone is still better in every aspect and sadly 2nd hand Samsung from 3 years ago is still better and cheaper. Though Fairphone is getting closer with each release!

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[–] tonur@feddit.dk 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I posted this elsewhere but the tech specs for the Fairphone 6 say the following:

USB-C 2.0 (OTG capable) can be used to connect USB Sticks/SD-Cards/Audio Amplifier/Network-adapters directly

I was really looking forward to use this with a pair of display glasses, like the XREAL One Pro, but this seems like the Fairphone 6 might not support display output? That's sad. Especially since the Fairphone 5 had this in their tech specs:

USB-C 3.0 (OTG capable) can be used to connect USB Sticks/SD-Cards/display (also Android™ desktop mode)/Camera/Audio Amplifier/Network-adapters directly

But maybe it was not used enough?

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