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Yeah, because voting third party has got you what so far? You're just a pot calling a kettle black. Both you and the people you're making fun of are equally useless.
The problem is we don't want to solve these problems.
So they don't get solved.
That was my thought as well. Not sure why so many are claiming otherwise.
The poor performance got the DNC to elect a nonbiased chair for the first time in over half a century...
If that doesn't sound huge to you, it just means you don't know enough about America's political history.
Ripping the DNC out of the neoliberals cold dead hands was fucking huge.
What? In 2024 stein got 870k, RFK got 750k, Oliver got 650k and de la Cruz got 168k.
In 2020 jogergensen got 1.85 mil, Hawkins got 400k de la Fuente got 90k, and a few others around the same
In 2016 Johnson got 4.4 mil, stein got 1.4 mil, mcmullin got 730k.
If anything, third party voting has gone down. How can you claim that was because of third party voting? Poor performance from the DNC doesn't mean good performance for third party.
Did we have to have the conversation about how turnout depression is what happens and not people voting 3 rd party?
You're jumping around a lot, you claimed people voted 3rd party, and now are saying not enough votes 3rd party to cost Biden/Kamala the election?
There's no logical consistency between your two comments, they're openly contradicting each other...
I never said people voted third party. I said objection voted third party because that's what he was arguing for a few months ago.
Ok trump...
No one mentioned it till you brought it up, claimed no one did what you said they did, and now denied you ever started this fucking Trainwreck of a conversation...
Like, it's right fucking there that you said it. Everyone can see it...
And you're just expecting us to ignore it and believe you now?
No one has time for that shit, if you lie about this you'll lie about anything
A few months ago, objection(op) was arguing for third party. Now he comes in this thread and makes fun of the people defending Biden. I told him that him voting third party was just as useless as the people defending Biden. Both stances were shit. That's what I said. Or at least that's what I meant, maybe it didn't come across as such. My comment was aimed at op.
Also, nice, you're accusing me of lying by twisting my words and completely ignoring my question regarding your correlation/causation fallacy. And apparently I'm Trump in this conversation.
You're exactly right. There's absolutely no way to influence the Democratic party's decisions through criticism or making it clear that they're on track to lose. Joe Biden is who we're stuck with and if you say you won't vote for him, you're completely useless. He's the only one who can beat Trump.
Strangely, he wasn't listed on my ballot so I just had to write him in.