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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 29 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I love all the broken clock mfs in here. I’ll concede that everyone, including myself, thought he (and trump) were too old to be running because they’re both mentally declining in different ways.

We didn’t know of any obvious major health issues with Biden. He had a shit debate and everyone suddenly acts like they knew something was wrong other than just getting old, being propped up on cold meds or whatever the official excuse was. Prostate cancer doesn’t cause these symptoms.

That said, the big question would be whether or not it was known he had cancer and was getting treatment for it, the effects of treatment certainly would be hard on someone mentally, their mental capabilities, and physically. Hiding that shit and running him for office again would be fucked up.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Obviously being old and in mental decline is not something people have issues with. Look at your current president.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

We didn’t know of any obvious major health issues with Biden. He had a shit debate and everyone suddenly acts like they knew something was wrong other than just getting old, being propped up on cold meds or whatever the official excuse was. Prostate cancer doesn’t cause these symptoms.

Sure, no one would have known about the prostate cancer, but plenty of people had been questioning Biden's mental fitness since 2020, and they were called ageist by pundits. Stewart himself was accused of aiding Trump for running a segment on Biden's strange mental gaffes just weeks before the debate. If people like Tapper had been doing their jobs instead of deferring to the administration, we would have had answers, not questions.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, I strongly remember being called a useful idiot for wanting a better canidate than Biden after the horrid debate performance, with every time being deflected to "But did you see Trump?? Clearly Biden can stop him now!!"

If Jon fucking Stewart was called ageist and a Russian bot because he accurately saw that Biden was not doing too well, its no wonder people called other fellow humans that too. I'm not shocked Apollo is trying to lie by omission of "We didn’t know of any obvious major health issues with Biden" besides being in the most stressful job in America and being the oldest person in that poisition.

But instead Biden went on "full" steam ahead, only keeping to his one term promise when internal polling showing he'd lose to Trump by 400 EC votes.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

Yeah, we technically didn't know that he was cognitively impaired, but 80% of Americans said they thought he was too old and couldn't handle another term. We were all listening to the guy speak and thinking, "...I'm not a doctor, but that guy seems like he's struggling."

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca -2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Funny how nobody is calling Trump out on his mental fitness. Could you imagine the outrage if Biden had said and done half the shit Trump has. Such a double standard.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

First of all, there have been dozens of articles about Trump's mental fitness. Second, Biden's decline was sharper and more noticeable; that's why, even though they both sounded like rambling old men during the debate, Biden came off worse. Finally, Trump's mental fitness is usually people's third concern behind his authoritarianism and corruption. Anyway, now that we've addressed that, it would be great if you could give a shit that Democratic party insiders hid the President's cognitive decline from the country.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

There's literal dozens of articles on this community about that. Nice whatboutism.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, the whole point of “he is too old” Is because 80 it’s too old. It is wether or not anyone had secret knowledge of Biden’s decline. It was a correct assessment, and his debate was just validation of what was already known

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago

It wasn't just that. There was prior evidence because he made one appearance every two months under very controlled circumstances and even then he looked lost as shit, confused, wandering, and whenever he talked into a mic you only got thirty seconds of sense out of him before he'd ramble about nonsense.

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