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i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Had nothing to do with it.. or at least insignificantly. The Dems on a platform of "were not him" and the economy is booming.. while people where hurting and got shafted by the wave of devaluation.. people are angry.. and the let's keep going on the same path and change nothing and so nothing party did not get people out to vote.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

The 2024 presidential election was like a really hairy credit card bill. Republicans ran on a platform of ignoring the debt all together and not making any payment at all, letting it get further out of hand. Democrats got blasted for proposing to make a minimum payment that did nothing toward interest. Neither choice was going to get us out of debt. But one of the choices is definitely going to bankrupt us. We could have made a payment. Now we're in way over our head instead.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's possible the idea that they ran a "not Trump" campaign is true enough, and that was part of the failure vs. being more to the left or vocal or any number of other things suggested. But the very fact that "not Trump" made people not show up and throw the election to him, or worse vote FOR him, says a lot about the state of the country.

I get it, people are hurting economically and somehow get blinded into promises that magic will happen. But Trump? Anyone voting this time around was around when he was in office the first time...are we that short memory? Yeah, we apparently are...repeating the same thing over and over expecting different results. And that can be applied to both sides, but one of them was the same guy.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 hours ago

I think you, someone who probably keeps up on the news and outrage and etc. are overestimating how much others do.

People are absorbed in their day to day life. Trump's gonna appoint RFK to a health leadership position? That's a far away concept with only vague implications for people who are having to take payday loans for the first time to make rent. Harris didn't truly run a campaign of hope and change like '08 Obama.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well it appears they'll never figure that out and intend to lose more so in 4 more years.

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Trump will have had 4 years to Putin up America by then. I'm not sure elections will matter any more by then. This is all just academic.

"Democrats lost because of this out that.... They'll never learn..." "Trump won because of that...."

Who fucking cares anymore? The fascists are in charge now.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

So if the fascist are in charge does that mean you just give up? No resistance? No civil war? Just hand America over to the fascists?

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

... No resistance? No civil war?

Who's going to be on my side? Trump won the popular vote. Think we can rely on ppl that can't even bother to vote to come actually put their lives in peril for a cause? Who would I fight with and what in the fuck are we even fighting for?

I'll be in the fight anyway, as soon as there actually is one, but Americans will need to wake the fuck up before that's possible.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Think we can rely on ppl that can't even bother to vote to come actually put their lives in peril for a cause?

All that needed be said on the subject.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Isn’t that what you did when you chose not to vote?