LadyAutumn

Your ability to ignore arguments presented to you and lack of initiative to learn what terms mean is astounding.

By all means, go after the non voters. I'm sure that will defeat fascism. Do you even know fascism means?

I'm all for overthrowing the political status quo entirely. Problem is organizing it, getting enough people on board.

Dems were supposed to be what saved us from fascism. They didn't. They campaigned on doing that and then failed. They deserve criticism for that. Fascists do not care what we think. They will continue their projects with or without our approval. Anti-fascism needs to adequately counter their methods. But properly countering fascism is impossible if you're a neoliberal conservative. And so thusly we are here. Waiting patiently for the powers that be to give a tyrannical fascist all the power he wants. They go back to their upper class lives, while the rest of us prepare for a new world order.

Yeah, we're just going in circles here. The assumption being made is that everyone who didn't vote actually had an opinion and was just "too stupid, too lazy, or too disinterested". I don't think that's the case at all and it's kind of offensive to even suggest it.

Idk what you mean by whipping boy lol... are you under the impression that criticizing them for things they do wrong is equal to abusing them in some way? They're some of the most powerful people in society lol. They're not poor, destitute, honest working Americans. They plan to literally shake a fascists hand as they give him nuclear launch codes and unrestricted federal power. They share the same system Trump does. They benefit from it in the same ways he does.

You seem to think getting angry at people motivates them to vote for you lol.

And yeah the word fascism means nothing to the average voter. They don't even know what that word means. Calling Trump a fascist (which he is) is not a winning political strategy.

She didn't lose because of non-voters. Nearly every single district in the country shift further red. Even deep blue districts had higher red turn outs. She lost the same way Hillary did. Yes sexism and racism had a role in it, for sure. But they also both lost because of absolutely abysmal campaigns.

Trump campaigned on change. It doesn't matter what change he was talking about, most people don't understand the nuances of politics. The whole thing vaguely confuses a lot of people. He was very much "I won't be like the last guy" and that is a winning political strategy. People understand that their lives have sucked the past 4 years, they don't understand the nuances of why, but they know Trump said he will change things. Conservative media tells them democrats just lie about Republicans. And they believe it.

We can yell at Republicans and their voters, sure. Just like the other German parties were free to yell at the nazis and the people who voted for them. But is that productive? Does that actually get them anywhere? Do you think the Republicans will change their strategies if we get mad them? Do you think their voters will vote differently if we tell them they're fascists?

Unless you're planning on overthrowing the current system of politics in America then you have to some kind of belief or notion that dems can win the next election. So the only people it even comes close to making sense to criticize are the Democrats. This election wasn't stolen from them. The people voted. The people chose Trump. It was Harris's one job to be more popular than Trump, to rally more support. She categorically failed at that. Bernie is right about why.

Youre still not getting it. Yelling at voters will get you literally nothing. If your goal is a future where Republicans don't control America then you need people to vote Democrat. Yelling at them isn't going to achieve that. Unless you're going to go full doomer on me and say that you don't care what happens anymore, in which case why are you even participating in this conversation?

Blame entirely rests on the democratic party. That is the reality of the broken American political system. No one else is responsible for their political campaign failing to gain votes. They were given warning after warning after warning, they didn't listen. This is the outcome created by those politics.

Cool. We can't control them, though, unless you've come up with a method of forcing people to vote. The democratic party campaign was supposed to get popular support. People were supposed to want to vote for them. That's the whole point of political campaigning. The democratic campaign was wildly unpopular on every single point other than "isn't Trump". They cozied up to fascist talking points time and again, border military and ethnic cleansing. She barely even campaigned on any progressive points. It was a joke of a campaign.

The democratic party has lost touch with reality. They will welcome fascists in with open arms. Those images won't ever be forgotten.

Atlantic Canada. Cheap cost of living compared to the rest of the country, beautiful environment, lots of nice small communities.

I had one. They are not made for winter driving lol. But they are absolute tanks. Idk if they actually are heavier than other cars I've driven or just feel that way lol

That's so smart and insightful of you! You're so right the democratic party should do everything exactly the same all over again. It'll totally win them the election this time!

You're right that leaving is your best bet. That isn't a reality for millions of queer people, however. Leaving isn't always feasible, or many of the queer people still in deep red states would already be gone.

It's time for us to make moves to prepare ourselves to contend with this administration and political agenda. Networks need to be made, connections between suppliers of DIY hormones and communities at risk of losing Healthcare need to be established.

As much as we need to help people get out, we also need to confront the fact that not everyone can, and this is the reality we live in now. I'm just saying, "Get out while you still can" isn't enough. We need to ready ourselves for a much more long-term fight against this system. Everyone who can should be getting involved.

I appreciate the enthusiasm for social upheaval, but I wouldn't call a civil war a good time.