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[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hummingbirds make for bad spys as they are an hour away from starvation for large parts of their lives.

[–] Archpawn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not in D&D. They just need to eat every other day, like anything else that doesn't have enough CON to go longer. I'm not sure how much they need to eat. I'm told there's a table on page 111 of the DMG, but I don't own one.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Loud as hell too! Sounds like god's own hornet when they buzz you.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it's a magic shapeshifter hummingbird. Do they even need to eat?

[–] groovyLizard42@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good question, how far do wild shape replicate biologic aspects?

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, obviously it doesn't mess with your brain otherwise if you turned into a cat you'd probably just spend the rest of the day sleeping and licking your butt.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe you wouldn’t, but IMO that’s half the reason to be a cat.

You’re a fool if you don’t think Sirius Black spent most his time in Azkaban licking his balls.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How does conservation of mass work with wild shape? Is that hummingbird 180 pounds? If so, how does it fly?

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There's no conservation of mass. Magic turned them into a bird. Any energy missing from the system went into the magic.

D&D ain't no Brandon Sanderson crunchy magic shit. It's Tolkien "this shit happened cause I magically said so" shit

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It goes into the magic and comes back when the spell is over. It's giving magic an interest free loan. Why does it cost spell slots to use this again?

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

The are two possible answers, depending on the angle you wish to take:

  1. For the same reason it costs energy to lift something onto a shelf then lower it back down, despite energy being conserved in the lifting and lowering of the object and its final energy state being unchanged. You need to impart external energy to cause change within a system.

  2. It's a game and some abilities need to cost resources for balance reasons.

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Mystery solved!

[–] psud@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There's no conservation of mass, you can wildshape into an elephant, load up with goods to your carrying capacity, then change to a raven and fly back, then back to the elephant to unload.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In 3.5e one of the strongest builds I'd ever seen was a hummingbird wild shape air-domain caster druid with the natural spell feat (I believe that is what it was called). They'd fly around the battlefield in bird form which gave them such insane AC bonuses as to be basically unhittable, then they'd just cast Call Lightning and Ice Storm and destroy the enemies while remaining untouchable. It was honestly insanely OP

[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm, interesting build. Did the player ever run into trouble with AoE saves? I feel like a Con save with no to-hit roll would be the Achilles heel there

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I only played a one-shot with the guy; it was just a fun-run kind of game so I didn't get a chance to see a lot of character, just the one day worth of OP-ness.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

The cat leaps for me and I wild shape into a flea which means I'm going to hitch a ride to the kitchens on this mean s.o.b. and hopefully I've got time for a short rest because fuck trying to explore a castle with a ~~walking~~ jumping distance of 8 inches.