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[–] SouravSatvaya@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Looks like Microsoft is now entirely focusing on selling games rather than selling Xbox. I read somewhere that eventually they'll bring the Game Pass to Play Station and Nintendo. It's no surprise if they do so because last year they earned more money on Game Pass than selling hardware.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if Sony would allow gamepass in their ecosystem. That said, if this is true then we are likely to see Microsoft leave the console hardware market.

[–] graymess@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

No fucking chance Sony's going to let a rival set up shop on their own consoles. Not even a possibility. Look at how much Apple and Google fought with Epic over keeping them off their phones. And that's just over a secondary app store on a device that can do a million different things that the parent companies can still find ways to monetize. You're talking about a competitor selling a subscription to bypass PlayStation's only source of sales. Sony will fight that with everything they've got and no cut of the subscription fees will ever be enough to change their minds.

Plus the Epic lawsuits set a precedent that if you provide zero support for third party stores (Apple) you're fine, but provide second class support (Google) and you're going to get fucked.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

I agree, they have no reason to allow it, specially to their biggest rival.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If Microsoft gives them a cut maybe.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

If Microsoft gives them a cut maybe.

But only for MS first party games. 3rd party games surely have to go through PS Plus if they want other terms than just buying games.

[–] astanix@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft has been betting on content delivery for a while now. They don't care how you play their games, they just want you playing them.

[–] AaronMaria@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They don't care how you play their games, they just want you ~~playing~~ paying them.

FTFY

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They'd love to have GamePass on Switch and PS5 already, Nintendo and Sony are the roadblock because they don't want to lose the share of cash and hours of playtime on their own platforms.

[–] SouravSatvaya@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Then there comes the EU rules. I think if Sony or Nintendo try to block the Game Pass on their platforms. MS will seek the EU's help.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Looks like Microsoft is now entirely focusing on selling games rather than selling Xbox.

If that were true, they would have discontinued Xbox already. You are falling for their lie that they aren't trying to lock people into a closed ecosystem.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hardware is a race to the bottom, and MS is ultimately a software company first.

Especially since in the near future streaming games will be a thing. Amazon is already working on it.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Would be massively surprised if this means anything else other than CoD which they got regulators worried about a little bit. they just want to reduce the eyeballs.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah, don't think we're seeing a PS5 release of starfield any time soon.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Definitely won't be all of them. Probably just a small set that are not huge money makers. They already publish some titles as third party, like Minecraft, Ori, and Lucky's Tale.

Guessing we just get ports of, like, Hi-Fi Rush and Psychonauts, and continued support of some Activision titles that are 3rd party like Diablo 4, Spyro, Crash, and a token Call of Duty game.

[–] iamlyth@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I’m sure this is certainly meant for ABK games.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So, at bare minimum COD will stay multiconsole. That's not surprising.

In order of least to most surprising to go multiconsole:

  • COD
  • Diablo
  • Elder Scrolls
  • Fallout
  • Starfield
  • Fable
  • Halo
[–] iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Earlier, multiple sources had indicated that Xbox is looking to foray into third party development, with ports of several first party titles rumored to arrive on PS5 and Nintendo Switch 2

So I guess they know more about the next Switch console than the rest of us.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They would have to if they plan to make anything for its launch. Least of which would be the specifications of the hardware.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Aside all other legitimate concerns mine is mostly that they'll use the MS store on PC...

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 3 points 8 months ago

They tried for like a decade before finally giving up. Microsoft has learned a lot of lessons while trying to work on their gaming arm, and some of them have actually stuck. I would expect titles to be sold on Steam until Phil Spencer retires.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm not getting my hopes up for the upcoming Fable installment on PS, but I'm getting my hopes up for the upcoming Fable installment on PS.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would love to play some Gears of War on my PlayStation, but only if you could buy the physical game and not play through a subscription service like GamePass.

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am very pessimistic about that ever happening but i would love to be wrong. I dont think they have much incentive to make all those physical copies unfortunately

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It would still be money into their account even if a subscription model might be better for them. But since, I wouldn’t be subscribing to anything related to Microsoft they would gain less money from me that way..

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

True, very true. I just dont see them taking all the steps to roll out a ton of physical disks for old games

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they're learning from Sony. That barely anyone runs out to get another console for exclusives, way more people will wait or just not play the game. They're mostly just leaving money on the table

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think they just finally learned XBOX isnt the big seller this generation, Playstation is the market leader for at least 2 generations because of their amazing first party games. Microsoft hasn’t had as good of a lineup for exclusive games, especially since they are already available on PC. See Halo Infinite and Starfield. There’s too many playstation users not to release games on that platform.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It feels like despite all that, Microsoft has had a lot more influence on the gaming industry the last 5 years than Sony because of their Game Pass push. Sony is fine doing what they've been doing, which is to put out like 3 great games a year.

Microsoft has struggled with great first-party games, but their services are far more interesting.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Very true, that’s why the thought of game pass on PlayStation sounds cool. Best of both worlds.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Playstation is the market leader for at least 2 generations because of their amazing first party games

of the two, the switch is like currently the 3rd top selling console of all time, only behind the DS and PS2 with 130m+ sold.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Nintendo has a category of its own. Which again also has a strong exclusives library. Switch users that own one of the more powerful consoles also go for playstation. 50 million PS5 vs 26 million XBOX Series consoles as of Nov 2023 vs 132 million Switches that has been out longer.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

unless your Sony trying to argue in court against microsoft that its not one and one at the same time.