Seriously, what's the point of government if not to HELP US. We didn't invent government to make our lives more difficult. We invented it to keep our shit together. For us. As a property of its existence.
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Only if you hold them accountable for what they do.
Seriously, what’s the point of government if not to HELP US.
We would get surprisingly far if we got to a place where the government didn't actively hinder us.
Hinder us how?
Off the top of my head:
- removing school lunch programs
- removing women's reproductive rights
- dragging feet on legalizing marijuana
- gerrymandering certain states/districts to keep one party in power
- politicians being bought by the highest corporate bidder
Those are all pretty big ways in which the government hinders the population at large.
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...of, by and for The People. Greatest work of fiction ever written.
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Wasn't JFKs speech supposed to be about not seeing a community only for what you get out of it?
Do you understand how offensive that concept is to a market capitalist?
They don't even want to fund public schools, and they get a pre-literate workforce out of that.
"Whats in it for me" would be our national slogan, if it wasn't already "fuck you whether or not I got mine."
That might be what the speech meant in context, but the quote alone sounds like something Animal Farm's Napoleon would say to Boxer.
American's vote for the government and fund it with their taxes. To believe it's a system with any other purpose than to serve it's citizens is assenine.
If they're going to steal 30%+ of my income, I expect something more than a DC pedo party and constant war.
it's supposed to be ironic ?
I think so.
That Kennedy quote has always been a puzzler.
Not in meaning, but why the hell it's supposed to be some kind of American ideal to aspire to.
"Take what we give you and beg to serve" seems a more honest phrasing.
You rarely see any thing else from that speech. If they'd just show even the part right after the "ask not" part it would help.
And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.
My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.
I do in fact demand better of my government.
Ok but also remember that Kennedy was demanding Americans accept responsibility for those less fortunate among us and that we invest in our future
Governments who do not fear their people have no reason to maintain a culture of obeying their wishes.
You can demand it, but when your election options are all determined by insiders and you further contribute by treating 3rd parties like laughing stock, you've got nothing but some weak whatever's left of a second amendment to hold over them.
That's crazy talk. You'd have to have some crazy government where you only get to vote every couple of years for one of only two candidates where the only reason to vote for one of them would be to not vote for the other guy for something like that to happen.
Ask not what you can do for you country; we will be the ones asking the questions here. Your country will tell you what to do and either you will obey or there will be consequences, because the revolution was a lie and you are a fool.
How's that JFK quote end, Steve Kelley?
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A bit of a weird tangent, but Canadian civil servants are the fucking worst. They make OKish money, and have some of the most secure jobs in the country, which unfortunately means they come with some of the worst attitudes ever. Like, they've got this massive chip on their shoulders that they don't make more money, but they can't lose their jobs, so they'll be damned if they're gonna fucking help you with a problem that totally falls under their purview. I always came out of public buildings with the mantra, "My fucking taxes pay your shitty salary!" running through my head.
I moved to Korea some years back, and was amazed how helpful public officials can actually be. Not that Korea doesn't have its share of bureaucratic problems, too.
You were probably more polite in SK and positive discrimination of white foreigners is very common in Asia.
Both of those things may be true, but have you seen Zootopia? The sloth who works in the DMV? That joke falls flat here because Korean DMVs are notoriously fast, efficient, and staffed by competent, courteous people.
Sounds like Canadian gov workers have it figured out. Who gives a shit. Its just a job. Why bend over backwards?
This also a massive over simplified and generally repeated untruth about government employees anyway. It's a good story to tell when you're trying to undermine a strong labor group. "They're lazy", "they don't care", "they have it too good". Makes for a great premise for a media company that wants to send that message too.
All bullshit.
I find that when I don't act like an entitled ass and respect what these people are doing, I have perfectly adequate interactions with them.
So, which is it? They have it figured out and underperforming is the way to go, or I'm making a generalization that isn't true? Ahh, I see. I'm an impolite media company trying to slander hard working bureaucrats.
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