this post was submitted on 04 Jan 2024
157 points (96.4% liked)

Work Reform

12794 readers
9 users here now

A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.

Our Philosophies:

Our Goals

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
all 47 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] charonn0@startrek.website 195 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If your business can't survive without paying slave wages then your business shouldn't survive.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

And they don't get that it's not the regulations demanding fair wages that are the enemy. It's low wages and high costs for their potential customers that is killing their business.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Yep.

Plenty of places are thriving with higher minimum wage.

This restaurant crying this hard isnt because they cant afford the wages. Its that owners grew fat on the exploitation, and will now have to slim their excess to pay proper, fair wages.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 109 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"Employers are unprotected. We have no rights. We don't get overtime or breaks. The only thing we get is what's left over after everyone else takes their cut. At some point, the risk outweighs the reward."

Right, that's what Entrepreneurship is. You take the big risks for the potential for big rewards. If you're not earning enough after paying all the bills, maybe your business model isn't viable.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago

They sound so entitled. Too bad they’re not profitable enough to hire a PR consultant because his statement was horrible.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If he's not getting paid enough working for himself, he should go work for someone who pays better and offers all those breaks and overtime.

[–] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Imagine being such a dumbass that you can't figure out how to make your business look superficially good and sell it to some schmuck or load it up with debt and bail. Employers have the game completely rigged in their favor, they just have to know how to play the game. It's shocking that someone who decided living in Redding was a good idea would be so stupid.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

They don't even take big risks. The company does. If they fund the company themselves rather than get an investment or a loan, they are just bad at the job. If the company fails, then the worst thing that happens to an entrepreneur is that they have to find a real job like the rest of us.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Lol, "we can't serve lunch to rich people unless someone is payed starvation wages" is not the high ground they think it is.

You know they're idiots because someone approved using papyrus for their sign.

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 6 points 2 years ago

I suspect that the same someone who approved that sign also designed it themselves to save a buck and then later had a meltdown about their lack of employer rights.

[–] highenergyphysics@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

Awe does the poor wittle business owner want another handout?

Get fucked and go bankrupt fucking parasite.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

You, in fact, do not have a right to other people's labor at your preferred price, dipshit.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The statement from them is rich.

"We, as business owners, do not feel that we are the ones exploiting people. We pay huge taxes, fees, licenses, inspections, Workman's Comp, insurance, you name it. We do this for the right to work really hard, and to create jobs. Yet...we are being told that WE are the reason why people can't afford their rent. We are told we should pay everyone more, while we work harder, and for less. Employers are unprotected. We have no rights. We don't get overtime or breaks. The only thing we get is what's left over after everyone else takes their cut. At some point, the risk outweighs the reward.

For us, we cannot accept more liability and expense. We have to pay our rent, too. So we are reducing our costs. Reducing our liability. We are concentrating our efforts on the area that is most successful. Tanya and I, as most other business owners, are tired of hearing how it's our fault people can't afford their lives; tired of being told we need to work harder so other people can have more; tired of being told we should be happy with having less, working more, being liable and responsible for everyone and everything, so other people can have a better life."

Boo-fucking-hoo. Just do it and don’t grandstand about it, nobody fucking cares how hard you think it is to be upper middle class.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

I rolled my eyes the entire article. These entitled twats!

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

"If you can make $20/hour at Taco Bell, with no experience, how much money do you think I'm going to have to pay a cook, who actually has experience?" Stedman continued. "I have to compete with that. Worse, I have to compete for somebody who has zero cooking experience. None, none at all!"

OH GOD, WE CAN'T EXPLOIT THE LABOR ANYMORE. WOE IS US. PLEASE GOD SHOW SOME SYMPATHY FOR OUR GREAT BURDEN OF NOT BEING ABLE TO EXPLOIT THE DESPERATE ANYMORE!

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lolll it's a fine dining restaurant too. nothing worse than making dozens of meals per hour that each cost far more than you make per hour

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I bet rent takes a bigger chunk out of their business compared to wages, but you never hear these types complain about their landlord.

[–] rockstarmode@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

In Redding? No chance. Labor is usually about 30% of gross sales, about the same as COGS (ingredients). Recommended rent and associated fees are in the 6-10% range of gross sales. I don't imagine Redding has sky high rents like an urban center.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Most other countries pay their servers a decent wage and don't make them rely on tips to survive and those countries have a shit ton of great restaurants that I've eaten at.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not even with the new wage laws is their pay decent for this state.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I guess my point was it's not 2.17

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Make that path easier. Make it less expensive, make it more simple, streamline it. Instead of putting roadblocks in front of it, open it up. Guide people," Che said.

Moonstone Bistro owners, Che and Tanya Stedman

When asked whether they felt it was disrespectful to those who work minimum wage jobs to downplay their importance, the Stedmans were direct.

"Tanya and I are the reason why this business exists, not the opposite," Che told KRCR's Sam Chimenti on Wednesday. "If we stopped working, these jobs disappear. Don't make it sound like we're terrible because we're undervaluing people's work. I think it's time for us to understand that our work is being undervalued, and that we're being told that we are terrible people because we are not giving enough."

So close.…

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

What a bunch of entitled bullshit. I look forward to his businesses failure.

[–] NataliePortland@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The restaurant across the street just doubled their business. That’s capitalism.

[–] yuki2501@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

No, that's Free Market. Capitalism is what this restaurant is doing to its workers.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Redding is as close to not California as it comes. They can fuck off to Jefferson, or oreida or whatever they want to call it.

But please send the owner of Mom's restaurant somewhere more friendly when you do?

[–] gataloca@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean the difference between them and they employees is that they can sell their restaurant when they want to quit at a good profit while their employees have to leave with only the clothes on their back.

[–] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago

These owners are pathetic. They need to quit being bums and get some fucking jobs!

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Rich asshole bad at business, good at getting whiny complaints broadcasted to public.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Aww poor baby