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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't think there ever can be a better icon. Some are experimenting with a down-arrow pointing to a flat surface, but the floppy fisk is much better.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thats downloading clearly. Which could be synonymous with saving of course in some way.

[–] TheAndrewBrown@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Every time you download, you are saving. But not every time you save, are you downloading.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

There is an icon that Adobe has with an arrow pointing down into a folder, and I think that works pretty well.

[–] kinttach@lemm.ee 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It’s become a symbol that has meaning even if the physical object isn’t used or doesn’t exist any more.

This ⏳ is a symbol that means “time passing” even though the object is rare and obsolete. This ⚽️ is a rare type of soccer ball/football, but it’s the most recognized symbol for the game. This 🚕 isn’t what taxis look like in most places — and many people have never used a taxi; they take Uber.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You know the hourglass was a good lead but then you went overboard.

That football look isn't all that rare, maybe in the US? Same for Uber, I have never taken one and they are definitely not the only "new taxi". Again, maybe in the US this is more the case than anywhere else.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I've never seen a soccer ball that doesn't look like that, as someone in the US. What else would a soccer ball look like?

[–] kinttach@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For example in US soccer the balls look like this: https://www.adidas.com/us/mls-balls

You sometimes might see the black and white ball but it’s a retro/novelty thing.

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[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The basic shape of pentagons and hexagons is almost always the same, but the black-white color combo is pretty rare - the balls are usually white with colorful designs and use paited shapes other than the 'basic' petagons and hexagons.

For example, take the soccer wikipedia page The image on the side shows a ball with a design that looks like the emoji well enough at a glance, but you'll see it's quite different. If you go on the wikipedia list page for FIFA World Cup balls you'll see that the 'Tango' style lasted for 6 competitions while the 'Telstar' (the one in the emoji) lasted only 2. After 2000 the designs got really wild and nothing like the Telstar. And that's just looking at FIFA World Cups, ignoring all other competitions and events, as well as balls you could buy at a store

If you were to go look at the balls in a sports shop with some 5-6 models of soccer balls, sure, you'll most likely find a ball that matches the Telstar aesthethic more or less closely, but there will be a lot of variation in the designs that are nothing like the Telstar, as opposed to balls for other sports which are much more standardized.

[–] kinttach@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I guess I was stretching it. In my defense I have never seen the black-and-white ball in play at kids’ or professional matches. And there aren’t yellow taxis in my city. Yes — in the US.

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[–] FedFer@iusearchlinux.fyi 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] BurnedDonutHole@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Preach brother! Preach the truth to these heretics who doesn't even talk about phone icon in their phones is still from the analog days.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago

The digital age phone icon is just —

/jk

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So? We still talk about people being 'three sheets to the wind' or hanging on to the bitter end.'

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 9 months ago

'toeing the line', 'swinging the lead', 'letting the cat out of the bag' etc.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I've used a Zip disk more recently than I've used a manila folder, but we still use those for directory icons (and the Open icon).

[–] marco@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

The click of death will come for them eventually :p

[–] Corigan@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Optimistic of you, that we will get our shit together and get there. Can't even mask to save millions....

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

I think it'll happen the other way around. Will get out there at least in some amount because the materials out there and we can mine them. There will be plenty of opportunity in space for people to form their own societies. They'll have to it'll be too difficult to administer from earth not unless we invent faster than light travel and then you'll just do the same thing on a larger scale.

The problem earth has is there's not enough room for everyone to experiment with different societies.

With more room we have more people and with more people we have more innovation eventually someone will invent the replicator or matter synthesis or something and we can stop worrying about resources at which point governments rather cease to have any power.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

As it should be. We no longer use floppies so it can exist purely as its own icon and not be confused

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s the year 2023 and people are still using “X” to represent the number ten.

And “A” to represent the wide open mouth vowel … and …. You get the point.

I wonder what the oldest symbols still in use are? You could probably argue for some of the old language roots for say water that arguably as far back as language itself.

[–] Dr_Cog@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Speaking of water... How often do you actually see a drop of water shaped like a drop? Almost never

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

Every time it sticks to a vertical surface, like on glass: 💧

This on the other hand, is not how drops fall: ☔

[–] marco@beehaw.org 6 points 9 months ago

It used to be a piggy bank and peeps from many countries had no idea what that was supposed to be....

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

2246 is wayyyy to soon to have Mars Terraformed

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[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's 2023, we haven't even gone back to the Moon...

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 10 points 9 months ago (7 children)
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[–] eldain@feddit.nl 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The QWERTY keyboard layout, developed for typewriters in the 1870s, remains the de facto standard for English-language computer keyboards.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago

We also still "dial" phone numbers, despite the fact that phones haven't had dials for something like half a century.

[–] Quereller@lemmy.one 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It only recently occurred to me the literal meaning of floppy vs. hard disk and the distinction between soft-, firm- and hardware.

[–] Lupus108@feddit.de 7 points 9 months ago

I thought they were called floppy because of those old ones that were you know... Floppy, in difference to the hard disks inside the tower.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They were called floppy disks because, originally, they were literally floppy while the hard drive was, you know... Hard. 5 inch disks were flexible. 3.5 inch disks were not literally floppy, but still were called "floppy disks" given they were the same thing, but smaller and with more rigidity in the casing that held the magnetic film.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait until you hear why Bill Gates called the company "Micro-soft"...

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gates didn't name it AFAIK. From wikipedia: "Allen came up with the original name of Micro-Soft, a portmanteau of microcomputer and software. Hyphenated in its early incarnations,"

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Guess I'll have to tell it...

After Bill and Melinda Gates have their honeymoon, Melinda turns and says, "Now I know why you call it Micro-Soft".

🥁🛎️

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

Ah, just a bad dick joke. Got ya.

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