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You have been sentenced to life in a micronation of your choosing (Sealand, Molossia, etc.) The micronation must have actual land and you may never leave that land. What micronation do you choose?

Edit: clarification of the rules. A micronation is by definition not recognized internationally. As a result, small sovereign states like the Vatican are not allowed.

Also you can't just make your own micronation wherever you want. It has to already exist.

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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago
[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’d have a couple of options:

Most Serene Federal Republic of Montmartre

This republic, retroactively dated to 1636, encompasses the Theater District in the borough of Manhattan, in New York City. In the late 1970s, a dispute between Montmartre's founder and New York Telephone, over whether the micronation could be listed in the government pages of the phone book, ended up in front of the New York Public Service Commission. The commission vacillated, alternately issuing rulings in favour of each party, and listings for the republic did appear in at least a few editions of the New York Telephone book.

All of life is basically a series of interlocking musicals, and I’d aim for some ministerial position. I’d like to work for the Idina Menzel administration.

Nation of Pacifica/Cascadia

This one isn’t on the Wikipedia page for some reason, but it’s a pretty active concept.

It’s basically the west coast states and territories, ranging from British Columbia to Baja California, with the idea of being some contiguous subset of those areas. I’d just want to make sure it includes the Bay Area and LA.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Cascadia/Pacifica would be my choice, I'm already in the borders of either one, and economically either would be a powerful nation, with decent politics

[–] HenchmanNumber3@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

Also you can't just make your own micronation wherever you want. It has to already exist.

This kind of makes the concept of a micronation useless. The point is that anyone can make their own nation with their own rules wherever they are or go. If you have to pick someone else's, then it's no different than picking someone else's recognized nation.

[–] blahsay@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Luxembourg is awesome. Easy pick

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago

That's not a micronation.

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Luxembourg is not a micronation

[–] GreyShuck@feddit.uk 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The closest to me AFAIK is Sealand, but I'd rather not, tbh. I do actually have a passport from Waveland, declared as part of a Greenpeace campaign some years back and based on Rockall, but also not too appealing as a long-term residence.

At one site that I lived and worked on for several years, we discussed declaring unilateral independence on several occasions. It was a shingle spit nature reserve and seemed a promising location, but we never did. Well, not so far.

Overall, the Free Borough of Llanrwst looks a good bet. I have been there and definitely enjoy the area.

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

The Other World, Czech Republic: "A BDSM resort specializing in female dominance, located in a château in Černá, Žďár nad Sázavou District, claims to be an independent matriarchy."

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

This post is assuming I know what the fuck that is or what one is. I choose Petoria

[–] nvermind@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

I visited Molossia a while ago, dude was awesome and super friendly. Plus the weather in Molossia is always perfect, although with the close borders with Nevada sometimes the bad weather from the US bleeds in.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Monaco, no brainer.

Never seen so many bucks per square meter.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

You'll starve to death sorrounded by cheap food that cost a thousand euros to look at.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's struggling at the moment

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it just pusher street that's closed?

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Correct, but not effectively. It's under a bit of struggle to maintain its footing and principles. They reached the point of asking the police for help, as an example.

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[–] aidan@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La%C3%A0s#Principality_of_La%C3%A0s

Being in a temperate part of France sounds pretty great, especially if I got a room in Chateau de Láas.

[–] peto@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Are there any good ones? Am I allowed to launch a coup?

[–] SgtAStrawberry@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Well Jämtland is Jämtland, but there is nothing wrong with that one. Really nice place, the biggest town is lovely, if you don't like the city ther is plenty of smaller towns, villages and cabins in the woods. They even have there own famous lake monster.

I would recommend against the coup, but if you gave your mind set you can probably find some new friends there to help you.

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[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

The one with the fastest internet.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can I afford it if I choose some place like Monaco?

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No guarantees on money but you can't leave. Also Monaco doesn't count because it's a city state and is internationally recognized.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

K fine, SeaLand but it better have internet and proper food. Also I'm bringing my pets and Imma need AmazonPrime and all the credit I can eat

[–] Toes@ani.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are there any in the EU with a nice beach?

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Toes@ani.social 1 points 11 months ago

Sounds perfect

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Does the Vatican count?

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

New Freeland.

[–] SgtAStrawberry@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

The Republic of Jämtland, very nice place. I even have friends there.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] kerrypacker@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you like inbreeding and sexual abuse?

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Not really, but it wouldn't be inbreeding if I'm an immigrant there (by definition). I take the second thing with a grain of history; before the UK decimated the place by issuing a war draft and taking everyone to go fight in WWII, it had as many people as a regular small American town, and what followed was a chain of sensationalism.

[–] mok@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 11 months ago

Seborga! Been there often.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I was awarded the Royal Decoration of Saint Michael the Archangel from the Principality of Kaharagia, so that would be my first choice, since I’m a Lady. Last I knew they were still looking for land, though, so that may be out.

~~Second choice is Monaco.~~

e: didn’t realise Monaco is officially recognised.

In that case, The Republic of Saugeais.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was awarded the Royal Decoration of Saint Michael the Archangel

Did you pay for it? 💀

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh god no, lol. They don’t allow that. (4th link)

I’d never heard of them before they notified me I was getting the award. I don’t know who nominated me, either. ¯\(ツ)//¯

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Huh, interesting. What was their reason?

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

How can I purchase a Kaharagian title or knighthood?

The acquisition of a Kaharagian title or knighthood through purchase is not possible. Our principality upholds the principles outlined in Royal Decree No. 5/2010, which explicitly prohibits the sale of titles and honours. This decree, enacted by the Prince as one of the foundational tenets of our principality, ensures the integrity of our system. It is crucial to note that engaging in such transactions is not only forbidden but also reprehensible, as it serves as a deceptive means for scammers to exploit individuals seeking titles. In Kaharagia, titles and honours are bestowed solely based on demonstrated service, dedication, and meritorious contributions, reinforcing the core values that underpin our principality.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Black Rock City

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Probably Sealand.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] OmenAtom@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Queen Victoria island if it counts, farthest island from land

[–] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The Grand Duchy of Pikeland!

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