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[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Is it an oven? 👍 Is it a microwave oven? 👍 Is it a countertop microwave oven? 👍 Can it grill food? 👍 Is it a grill microwave oven? - exceeded the question limit, big reveal, answer was "microwave". Interesting but I wasted a lot of questions trying to determine what kind of microwave it was because "microwave oven" was not accepted.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Even saying "oven" as correct threw me off. Ive never called a microwave an oven or a microwave oven. I was like starting to think maybe it wanted a specific brand of oven, or a synonym like stove

[–] Skwerls@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago

Well actually....

An oven is something you put food in to cook by heating the air inside of it.

A range is the burner portion.

A stove is a combination of the two.

Yes this is pedantic and I agree that they're often used interchangeably

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[–] johan@feddit.nl 17 points 11 months ago

I thought I was done when I guessed oven, but there was no clear feedback saying I won. Went to the comments for the actual answer.

So my feedback: fun game! If possible, perhaps add something like "very close" if you guess something that's almost the answer but not quite. Or oven could have just been wrong, since that wasn't the actual answer.

[–] hasnt_seen_goonies@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I thought it was broken, because I asked if it was an oven, and it said yes... And then nothing. Just a bit confusing to people who don't understand AI and fuzzy answers.

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[–] SendMeBakedBeans@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Y'all gotta put spoiler tags on your shit

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm hesitant to say that the current word is a bad choice, but it feels far too specific to me. I'm curious what questions one could ask after finding out that it's a type of f___ that would lead to the exact type of f___ that it is.

Again, I'm hesitant to criticize the decision, because it's entirely possible that I'm just dumb and gave up too soon

[–] eriner@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'd rate this one "black diamond" level for sure.

My Questionsis it alive? 👍

is it an animal? 👍

is it a land animal? 👎

is it a salt water fish? 👍

is it a tropical fish? 👍

is it commonly consumed in America? 👎

is it a common fish in home aquariums? 👎

is it a common fish in public aquariums? 👍

does it have a distinct color? 🤷‍♂️

is it larger than a bread box? 👎

is it a keystone species? 🤷‍♂️

is it a character in the movie Finding Nemo? 👍

Is it larger than one foot in length? 👎

does it have unique characteristics that differentiate it from other fish? 👍

is it a clown fish? 👎

is it an angler fish? 👎

is it a deep sea fish? 👎

is it a seahorse? ⭐

[–] ConsumptionOne@sopuli.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

Agreed. I narrowed it down to a small species of ocean fish that was featured in Finding Nemo, but couldn't figure out how to pin down a specific species.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

I feel the same way to be honest, with the current question I did it all the way through and I was at odds end of what I could ask it aside from just straight out asking if it's a specific type, third question in was the exact one that you spoilered out and yet I wasn't even able to get a general ballpark of what it was in the next 17 questions.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Lmao I got the answer 11 questions in, but because I called it a "microwave oven" instead of just a microwave, it didn't count as correct until I asked "is it a microwave?" for my last question

[–] eriner@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We've implemented a fix to make it more lenient. Sometimes the synonyms and spellings catch us off guard ("raccoon" vs "racoon"), but we should have known about this one! Sorry about that.

+CC @theparadox@lemmy.world

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

I had fun anyway, and ain't playing competitively. Long as I know I got it right, I'm happy!

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 11 months ago

20 hours until I can play again?! C'mon...

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like the concept but some of the answers can be really misleading.

Can be carried, is found in classrooms, not made of plastic, and inexpensive. None of that points towards a microwave for me. Microwaves CAN be carried I guess, but who has microwaves in classrooms? My microwave has plastic cowling on the front, and microwaves are like 70-100 bucks the last time I checked. Some of that is on me for the phrasing (does it contain plastic I guess should have been used, as an example) but it's a bit odd.

[–] hasnt_seen_goonies@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I agree, but I definitely had microwaves in my classrooms (small school, we would eat in classrooms).

[–] Fisherswamp@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Apparently microwaves aren't made of metal >:(

[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Microwaves also don't contain motors 😂

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[–] SnowmenMelt@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I got a no for can you hold it so I was sure it was a normal oven. You can definitely hold a microwave they're not that big 🤣

[–] KapiteinPoffertje@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I got a yes for can you carry it...

[–] secondaccountlemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

i made the mistake of checking the comments before playing so...

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[–] StThicket@reddthat.com 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I came as far as asking: is it an oven 👍 Then: is it a stove 👎 Then wtf is it???

I never in my life have considered a microwave to be an oven, but obviously it is. I've never had one, so I have limited experience with it.

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You do know microwave is short for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_oven](Microwave Oven?)

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[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Does its prevalence cause existential dread due to consumerism in the western hemisphere? 👎 Does it make chicken rubbery? 👍

[–] omgarm@feddit.nl 6 points 11 months ago

I got it in 19, but only because I asked if it was smaller than a house cat and I thought raccoons were larger.

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

This is interesting. I'd like to see more words.

[–] jack@monero.town 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Can I wear it? 👎 Is it a microwave? 👍

This is too easy

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[–] Ifeelya@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I asked "is it famous?" 👍

I asked "is it in North America?" 👎

It was an oven lol.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Actually the lastest one isn't an oven as the final answer. My wife asked that and was like, "so why isn't it over??"

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This was my exact experience and I couldn't figure out how to make it end. Was I supposed to guess which brand? Or was it something picky like a microwave oven?

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[–] hazardous_area@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nice. I got 17 and I would debate the size of that versus a bread box. Still got pretty much everything else right

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[–] fhek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I had no idea a ______ could be considered food…..

What.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 4 points 11 months ago

I asked if it was edible and got a no.

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[–] austinfloyd@ttrpg.network 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The AI seemed to struggle with scientific names for #19.

The question

spoiler"Is it in the Actinopterygii class?"
was answered as no, though the correct answer should have been yes.

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[–] RandomlyRight@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

It’s a really cool concept! Not much to improve regarding the UI. One small thing is, I found the thumbs up or down a bit less intuitive than seeing the answer spelled out

[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Those don't live in Europe or Africa? Huh.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How does this work? You can't possibly have all these questions hard coded. Is it asking something like ChatGPT "does an X eat meat?"

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah I noticed the past two days already that it answers with an LLM, and that of course gets stuff wrong quite frequently.

[–] Soupbreaker@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I dunno how difficult to implement this might be, but it ought to be cognizant of Linnaean taxonomy. I just had one where the word was seahorse, but the bot claimed it was not a ray-finned fish.

[–] JamesNZ@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I asked if the word was a noun, and it gave me a "don't know". I asked if the word was an adjective, and also got a "don't know", so I gave up.

[–] eriner@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Asking about linguistic characteristics of the word is cheating in twenty questions! :) There's a note about this at the end of the "How To" that's linked on the front page.

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[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why we have to wait 24 hours for new word?

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[–] SimpleMachine@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The word for me was seahorse, but when I asked it if it had scales the game answered yes. Seahorses do not have scales.

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[–] tabularasa@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

It said you couldn't throw it, so that threw me off. Pun intended.

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