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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Will she be funded by Donald Trump again like in 2016?

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[–] Sanity_in_Moderation@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago (3 children)

She will once again campaign only in states where it is possible to flip to Trump. Instead of safer states where she could get 5% of the vote and thus qualify for matching funds for the green party.

That is how you know it's completely bullshit and she is being run as a spoiler candidate for Trump.

Well that and the picture of her and Michael Flynn sitting at Putins table at a Russian state dinner in December of 2015.

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[–] Dee@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Until we get ranked choice voting or similar the Green Party is a joke with zero chance of election. Voting for them only helps Republicans at this point in time.

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[–] awnery@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ranked choice voting because i'd choose a chupacabra's cloaca over trump. but jill stein is just here to talk and distract. she has a platform, she can use it, she doesn't have to make shit worse.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chupacabra's cloaca.

There are at least three truly cursed combinations of words out there in the world that most only see a handful of times throughout their lifespan. They are both forbidden and beautiful in their execution.

[–] awnery@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

lmao i'm glad you had such a visceral response. all i did was say trump was less worthy of my vote than the evacuation port of a cryptid vampire coyote, and i think we could solve this kind of obvious dilemma with ranked choice voting

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 27 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Let's see:

  • Fascism is calling from inside the house
  • All of the Republican candidates are fascists
  • The Supreme Court is stacked with Federalist Society-bred Christian Originalists.
  • Trump is likely going to be the Republican nominee

And here's Jill, like, "Mmm, yeah. Now's a good time to try to split the vote."

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Putin"s other bitch

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Come on... You can hate Stein all you want for being a spoiler, but there is zero evidence she has any connection to Putin.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] oyo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a difference between an ill-advised third party run and collusion with Russia. Stein is mentioned once in this article with zero evidence of a connection.

Did Russia try to unilaterally boost Stein's campaign (along with all third party candidates)? Likely.

Should Stein have dropped out if she knew this? No.

Should Stein have dropped out because she was contributing to Trump's win? Yes.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

She’s putin’s bitch whether she realizes it or not. She’s actively eroding democracy in the US because of her idiotic, quixotic aspirations.

Fools never recognize a zero sum game.

How 'bout No?

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Russian pawns gonna pawn

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No thanks. I'll vote who is likely to win based on mathematics with weighs on preference on top and those I prefer on the downballot. Do this enough time, and there will be a split between progressives and moderates when conservatives eventually become ineffective minority.

This old donkey needs to ride off into the sunset. This is a spoiler campaign.

[–] oDDmON@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

She sounds good on paper, but not much else. Needs to stay off the stage.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I cast a Jill Stein protest vote in 2012 because Obama had a lock on my state, and I felt like Obama and the Dems in general had strayed too far to the right. Obviously, Obama won my state and the presidency, which is what I actually wanted. I just felt like we could move the Dems to the left by showing them they were leaving votes on the table. That does not work. I can get into why, but the basics are that third parties only act as spoilers.

In any case, Jill Stein is a terrible candidate on paper. All she does is mouth the dream set of policies a lot of us would love, but has no program to achieve them, she has no experience picking staff or running a large organization, she has all the charisma of a rotten banana, and she refused to throw down against anti-vax because it’d alienate half her base.

I’m for a serious Green Party in the US - one that is actually oriented towards governing. The Greens internationally are a real party, not the party equivalent of Vermin Supreme.

Honestly, most of the US agrees with the Greens on a lot of issues, and they could make enough of a big tent that a seriously (constructed and funded) Green Party could probably take multiple seats in the House, at the very least. They could caucus with the Dems, but try to pull things left. They’d work like the Squad, or Bernie and Warren. Between the coasts and the big cities, they could probably swing ten or more seats.

But instead we get Jill, yet again. Honestly, I’d like to see an investigation of her Trump-like election challenging fundraising.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They rarely even run in down ticket elections.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Isn't she the one who publicly claimed 911 was an inside job?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Stein, a physician who ran against Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in 2016 as the Green Party’s nominee, previewed her latest run for the White House on social media and unveiled an accompanying website.

Stein wrote on her website that she is entering the presidential race “to offer people a choice outside the failed two-party system, so we can put a pro-worker, anti-war, climate emergency agenda front and center in this election and on the ballot in November.”

Stein’s last national bid in 2016 sparked considerable anger from Democrats, who argued she contributed to the election of Trump by taking away votes from Clinton in close swing states including Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

She has promoted early support of the progressive platform, including a Green New Deal, the sweeping environmental reform agenda favored by climate activists.

The 73-year-old doctor and environmental advocate joins a chorus of outsiders competing for the Oval Office as discontent with Biden reaches new levels a year from Election Day.

In addition to West, fellow progressives Marianne Williamson and Cenk Uygur have launched long-shot bids, as well as independent Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.), who is running against Biden as a Democrat.


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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
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