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A year after promising viewers a “red tsunami” in the 2022 midterms, only to be left with egg on their faces after the GOP drastically underperformed, Fox News was once again wondering what went wrong after Democrats romped to victory in statewide elections on Tuesday night.

Despite recent polls showing President Joe Biden deeply underwater with voters and even losing to Donald Trump in several battleground states, the Democratic incumbent governor easily won victory over his MAGA-endorsed opponent in deep-red Kentucky. And over in Ohio, a state Trump won by eight points in 2020, voters overwhelmingly passed an amendment ensuring access to abortion care in the state’s constitution.

The continued drag that undoing Roe v. Wade has had on the GOP was especially apparent in Virginia, where Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin had promised to implement a 15-week abortion ban if the GOP was able to gain unified control over the state’s General Assembly. Instead, not only were Youngkin’s hopes of a Republican sweep dashed, but the Democrats now control both chambers.

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 255 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Hannity also groused that Republicans’ push to ban abortion in states across the country, as well as the reversal of the federal right to abortion, meant that “Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans don’t want abortion legal under any circumstances.”

When Republicans keep saying things like “total abortion ban”, yeah, we get that impression.

edit: fucking Texas is trying to make it illegal to drive to get around their abortion ban

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah Ohio made a 10 year old go to fucking Indiana for an abortion. That’s part of why we legalized abortion

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not a violent person but I genuinely want to break things whenever I’m reminded of that. Just unbelievable from every direction, from people who preach about caring for children.

[–] Tolos@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans have never cared about children.

Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked.

  • George Carlin
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[–] pacoo2454@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Republicans are scaring women just fine on their own by making is less safe to be a woman

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans don’t want abortion legal under any circumstances

Oh hun, you don't need to blame Democrats for that. You're spreading that message quite clearly yourselves.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep. It turns out that a great many people don't fall for their bullshit gaslighting.

ETA: Also, I think everyone given a chance to interact with Klannity should always ask when he's going to be waterboarded.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 180 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“Republicans need to look at all of these numbers, and really think about what’s more important. Yes, most people that are Republicans are probably pro-life,” she stated. “And we love our babies. And I love being a mother. But what’s most important? Republicans taking over. And Republicans being able to keep our country!”

Wasn't expecting them to say this part out loud.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember this when any future conservative (I don't care what party flag they're flying) tries to claim they are about any policy. If they ever attempt to come up with a policy again.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

They've been getting vauger for decades intentionally.

Anti-abortion is going to become "childs rights" and they'll swear they'd never dream of outlawing abortion until they think they can get away with it.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anti-abortion is going to become “childs rights”

No, probably not. That too easily leads to things they're against, like funding health care and education.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The “Vote NO on 1” signs littering the chuds’ yards in my neighborhood were subtitled with bullshit slogans like “protect children”, “protect parents’ rights” and, most egregiously, “protect them both” (complete with an illustration of a pregnant woman who is ostensibly in danger of being forced at gunpoint into an abortion?). [edit to add] I just read this morning that there were people putting out rumors that the amendment would allow minors to get gender reassignment surgery without parental consent, when all anyone needs to do is read the goddamn ballot, publicly available, to see that there is nothing there at all saying that. They’re craven liars.

Nothing is off the table for these psychopaths; for fuck’s sake, when they tried to block the measure from the ballot back in August, some of these jamokes had the gall to put up signs that said “protect the 2nd amendment”… but idiots will lap it up.

“Children’s Rights” can absolutely be their next tactic, because as long as they act in bad faith and say all kinds of shit with zero meaning behind it, why the hell not?

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rofl Fuck them babies! Power above all else!

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So "killing babies" isn't okay as far as medical, financial/home stability concerns...

But it's ok if it's about winning elections...

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[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 132 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My crazy prediction is the only lesson the GOP will take from this is that they have to try to steal elections even harder.

Keep voting at every legal opportunity you can people and great job yesterday!!

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

It's not enough to vote.

We need to be vigilant as we enter the presidential elections next year. Keep a close eye on secretaries of state or whomever certifies election results.

2020 was a test run for the Alt-right and they have learned where the weaknesses are in the democratic process. They will most certainly attempt to steal the 2024 election by any means necessary, up to and including violence.

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[–] Ibex0@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We all remember that 10-year-old rape survivor in Ohio and the repugs who demanded she give birth to her rapist's baby.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Jesus Christ was a rape baby.

Anything they can do to bring on Judgement Day.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Maybe instead of worrying about gaining power through whatever means necessary they actually try doing what their constituents want?

They don't have a party they have a coup in search of a country.

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago

They don't have a party they have a coup in search of a country.

Brilliant

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago

It's so hilarious to see these people still acting like the dog that caught the car.

The forced birthers, oops, I mean, "pro lifers" need to shut up for a little while and repeat this mantra in their heads, over and over until it fucking sinks in: "Roe [*] WAS the compromise. Roe WAS the compromise".

[*] The thing they worked for decades to destroy.

[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You rightoid fuckers HAVE NO POLICIES outside of schadenfreude and bogeyman flavor of the month fearmongering. Conservatives are incapable of governance, and a lot more people are finally catching on.

[–] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh and tax cuts for billionaires.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

While not improving any efficiencies and therefore skyrocketing debt

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my opinion ~~PotatoTown~~ Tuberville and the rest of the GOP who don't override the filibuster want to leave these positions open so they can stuff them with Christian Nationalists if they take the Senate next year.

They don't intend to let the next coup fail.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

You rightoid fuckers HAVE NO POLICIES outside of schadenfreude and bogeyman flavor of the month fearmongering.

That's not true: they have hatred of minorities and women.

[–] MacGuffin94@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I still don't think that the full impact of COVID is being accounted for in polling and voter outcomes. Yes the first wave hit blue areas hard and fast due to population density but with the vaccine and the ever growing amount of time it has been available I have to imagine it is almost exclusively hitting red areas now. COVID has not gone away but vaccinated people aren't dying at nearly the rate of the unvaccinated of which that group is pretty exclusively GOP or at least Maga. When some of these elections were coming down to the thousands of voters 3 years ago what happens when thousands of dedicated GOP voters are now dead?

[–] Sanity_in_Moderation@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I did the math a few years ago because I couldn't find anyone else who had published it. This is rough and IANAM (mathmagicman).

Every single day 8,000 boomers and above die, and 12,000 people turn 18 and those numbers are actually accelerating. If you use existing data to estimate conservative/liberal and likely voters within those groups it works out to a delta of 10,000 per day on a national scale. That's 5,000 votes switching every single day. That might not seem like alot. Because it really isn't. Out of 155 million votes cast, 10,000 is .006 percent. But here's the thing. It's cumulative. And it just doesn't stop. It is relentless. it's 300k a month, 3.6 million per year. And that pace is accelerating. Between 2020 and 2024 it's a 15 million vote difference. By 2028 it's 30 million. It used to be that people age into conservatism. But that is not happening with millennials. The demographics are changing, and changing quickly. The most conservative group in the country is dying. While the most liberal group is rising.

We just have to hold on to democracy for a few more years. This will all be behind us. Another 10k today.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have a feeling you "aged in to conservatism" because that's when you finally had money and humans are generally shit when it comes to "fuck you I got mine" but speaking as a millennial, that's just not happening. My generation's retirement plan is to die at our desks hopefully in a way that creates a lot of work for our bosses. Although on the less cynical side of things, I also tend to think that generally people are becoming more tolerant over time.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For the most part I have aged into liberalism. Older I get and the more shit I have seen.

Before: What do you mean institutional racism is a thing? I am not racist, no one I know is racist. Oh sure there are skinheads, but they are in jail. Since I don't see it, it must not be there.

Now: I just saw my friend who is black get treated like he was a dangerous criminal because of the crime of walking.

Stuff like that for example. I am doing well, I got mine. I want everyone else to get there's as well.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

aged into liberalism

Elder millennial here. Same. Grew up in a conservative, religious house hold, thinking we were some kind of bastion of morality, while the blue team was dead set on blending babies down into a paste for their satanic rituals n' shit. Started actually paying attention to politics in the Clinton presidency, but ofc was hyper-focused on shit that doesn't matter (relative to actual policy, anyway) like his affair, so cue the confirmation bias.

Then Bush happened, but by then I was actually thinking critically, so there was a lot of "wtf, I know he's on our team, but this isn't right". I was still a fucking idiot though, so I landed in the "bOtH siDeS arE teH sAMe!!" trap and championed the Libertarian party for a bit.

Eventually realized the LP, despite having some sincerely decent concepts on paper (shoutout to the non-aggression principle), boiled down to just handing corporations the reigns of the nation; and that the notion of the free market policing itself is a laughable pipe dream (reality check for pretty much any Libertarian proposal: "What would telecoms do with this proposed power?").

And I couldn't support the blue team because... um... well there was the situation with Clinton's blowjob... and, uh... hmmmm... why the fuck have I been vilifying them all this time?! FINALLY took a closer look at the real left's goals, and not just Fox's boogeyman fantasy version, and FINALLY realized I'd been drinking the right's kool-aid from basically birth all the way through the Libertarian phase.

Fast forward another decade-ish and 2016 happened, which really pulled off the last shred of veneer that used to present the GOP as anything other than seething hateful cultists: that was the kick in the ass that made me realize that I've got some catching up to do, and urgently. Haven't missed an election since, big or small: solid blue.

The really important bit here: none of ^that is unique. It took some blundering in the dark to realize that I was... well, blundering in the dark; but I was raised alongside a horde of other kids whose parents "shifted right as they aged" and just didn't question the boogeyman fantasy shit until we got out of the house, and then turned left. Then more left. Then ALL THE WAY LEFT.

And it's not just in blue bubbles, either - I was active duty in the military when we switched from Obama to Trump; the military definitely leans right, but it's not absolute as it's often presented. Even there, a significant portion of the servicemen and women I interacted with were on track wit their own version of my rant here. People in general, but millennial and younger especially, are REALLY sick of this neonazi, christofascist shit on the red team.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

It used to be that people age into conservatism

It used to be that being conservative did not require you being batshit insane.

Yes batshit insane conservatives existed, but so did reasonable people supporting reasonable sounding policies by conservative politicians who behaved in a respectable manner.

While I believe it's still possible for reasonable people to be Conservative, it's not possible for reasonable people to support Republicans with their mouth pieces like Magorie "Jewish Space Lasers" Green being treated like someone with opinions worth listening to.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Regarding the steadfast belief that "conservatism is dying": no it isn't. Christian schools, home schools, Christian colleges, and even regular schools, communities and colleges are pumping out kids that have the beliefs of their parents. I live in a rural area, and work (hypocritically) for a Christian based organization. I'm surrounded by young minds that are perfectly comfortable with the ideals of the religious right, and vote.

Society has been saying it for years... We said it when I was back in college. "Bubba in the white house is going to be the best! We'll undo all the hell Reagan and Bush did!" then Newt Gingrich (sounds like a disease...) made his "Promise to America(tm)" and everything got fucked.

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[–] Jesus_666@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You need to keep in mind that 2023 COVID is a different beast than 2020 COVID. The currently most common strains tend to be less hard on the body as the virus has started to adapt to human hosts.

I still wouldn't recommend people to go unvaccinated but it's not quite as suicidally irresponsible as it used to be. Still irresponsible, though.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

To offer my trivial little analysis:

The GOP has happily made themselves into the Trumpism party even in elections where Trump isn't even running.

Those hard core Trump supporters are only interested in Trump himself (just like Trump is only interested in himself), and aren't as likely to bother if he isn't personally involved. To all but the Trump die hards, Trump is odious and that stink has rubbed off to make his detractors very active to fight the GOP at large.

I fear that next year Trump will bolster GOP votes with his fanatics.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just want to point out that, nationwide, moms for liberty candidates lost 92% of the elections they were involved in. America HATES MAGA

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 15 points 1 year ago

Thank fucking God. They are the worst.

Their platform is literally "ban all the books that might make you, ya know, think"

[–] Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While the other cable news networks stuck with live special coverage for the rest of the evening, Fox News decided that its audience needed a break from the deflating electoral results for conservatives. After Hannity signed off at 10 p.m., Fox aired its regularly scheduled broadcast of “comedy” show Gutfeld!, which was pre-taped and didn’t make any mention of the elections.

Gutfeld acting as a conservative american "swan lake" might be the saddest thing I've heard all day.

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Fuck the republican traitor filth. Fucking worthless parasites.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it was time for the GOP to learn to love abortion.

That might be pushing it, but they can learn to get over and deal with it.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody is forcing any Republicans to have abortions, so maybe them and their small government asses can mind their own fucking business in regards to everyone else.

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