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I'm always amazed that anyone actually thinks Donald Trump is a Christian lol
the racists don't care, and they're all racists
According to my grandfather, the fact that he's supposedly anti-abortio makes him a "man of god."
I want to reduce abortions by providing easy access to sex ed and free condoms. Abortions should still be 100% legal and easy to get, but there ought be less of them cause they suck to go through.
Anyway, hail Satan.
Ironic and apologies for your dumbass grandfather; Trump has probably paid for enough abortions and NDA's related to fund the capital of a small town
Bet he wouldn't vote for a conservative Muslim even if they opposed abortion.
I'm 100% convinced that if Christ came today the majority of white American Christians would call him a demon and one of them will end up shooting him. Especially if he came back as a man of color that spread anti-capitalist ideas and hung out with the poor, sick, and unwanted. They'd never, ever, tolerate that.
IF Christianity is true, a large amount of souls of self-proclaimed "Christians" are in danger of damnation. They are actually doing Satan's work for him. The issue are the ones 100% certain they are "saved" while spouting racist, evil things at the same time. How do you talk to people like that? How do you convince them that they are in fact 100% wrong and likely going to the same hell they claim everyone else is going to? I'm an atheist, so most wouldn't even take me seriously.
There was actually an opening to an episode of American Gods that has that exact scenario. He literally walks across the Rio Grande and after he gets to shore a bunch of hilbillies with religious iconography alongside their confederate flags roll up in their lifted trucks and shoot him with a fully automatic weapon.
LOL wow.
Makes me wonder how many racists watched that episode and thought to themselves "that would never be me" while fully supporting the mentality behind it.
So what you are saying is that now is the time to invest in gold AR-15 necklaces?
I mean look what happened to MLK Jr...
The FBI would probably investigate him and then he'd be murdered by white supremacists.
Trump isn't -The- Antichrist, because that was likely just a bible story warning of populist leaders. But he is -an- antichrist.
He's not the first and probably not the last, but he has the power to make deeply "Christian" people openly forsake their religion...and if that's not an antichrist, I don't know what is.
Agreed.
If I was a Christian (I aint but just work with me here), I'd honestly believe Trump was being used by Satan to lead the Shepard's beloved sheep astray.
If Jesus came along today, they’d cast him out as a socialist and probably kill him in a botched police raid.
Modern fundamentalist American Christians would have been in the crowd shouting for barrabas to be released, make no mistake.
Like modern fundie American christians know who Barabbas is or have actually read the bible.
Some have, my own father has read it multiple times and is as conservative Christian authoritarian as they come.
The real problem is they have this issue where instead of actually reading it as one would any other book, they lightly skim the words of the text while using the book as a channeling device to try and achieve some greater meaning/interpretation of the text given to them mentally by God. Reading it for what it says isn't good enough, it's not even the true purpose. They genuinely believe that it's meant to be "understood" on a higher plane of thought than just READING THE DAMN WORDS.
Which is fucking hilarious if you know church history, the protestant faith is literally based on the idea that reading the text is good enough and you don't need any human to explain it to you, you don't need some esoteric understanding of the text that you can only gain through additional seminary/linguistics education or personal revelation from God. The written word is the message itself, and just being able to read an accurate translation of it in your own language without someone else's interpretation is supposed to be the only necessary thing for someone to understand God and the sacrifice of Jesus.
Except the written word isn't good enough, the ecumenical councils were democratic in nature and even the three major divisions of the faith can't agree on which is canonical and what is heretical/apocryphal after thousands of years of deliberation. So now you get pumped full of interpretation from day one. The snake is Satan, not a talking snake (too close to other mythology for their liking.) The cosmological beliefs of this faith included after lives from the get go, even though Sheol translates to grave and most Jews (including Jesus, if his line about "outer darkness" is to be believed) simply thought of death as the end unless spiritual resurrection took place. Turns out afterlives were mostly included when the Greek converts started bringing their traditions into the faith, and it was deemed necessary since it keeps people from leaving the religion. You get told countless things that aren't from the text, but rather a "what could have happened/what could have been intended" and how it applies to ~~your pastors agenda/tithes~~ your life.
There's no question that he would be apprehended and faced with terrorism charges.
“He’s tuning the other cheek!”
“Stop resisting!"
I stopped going to church when I realized how hypocritical the people who attended churches are. "Love thy neighbor, except those gays, brown people, liberals, pro-choicers( except when I need, or my teenage daughter needs an abortion), anyone who lives on the west coast, drives a Tesla, eats an avocado, believes in vaccines, voted for Biden, didn't vote for Trump, wants raise minimum wage, oh and definitely those climate change believers. They can all go rot in hell. 'Merica!!!! Fuckin Yeehaww!! Pew pew pew!!!"
This guys a pastor and I figured this out when I was 15...I'm 41.
I wasn't raised with a religion (parents were both atheists), but when i was around 15-16 I got curious. I started attending the youth group at the local feel good church up the street and literally every single sermon was about how teenagers have urges, but we must resist them as sex before marriage was a terrible sin.
Well after a couple months of weekly don't have sex meetings the cops showed up to arrest the youth pastor for something like 27 counts of statutory rape. He had been sleeping with all the girls in the youth group ranging from 18 all the way down to the 13 year-olds.
The only reason he got caught was because two of the girls got into an argument about how they were his one true love, and one of them called the cops on the other one because she got called a bad name. That ended my very short experiment with religion, bunch of fucking hypocrites pretending they're better than other people while doing exactly what they tell others not to... at least the sex I was having was legal.
If there's one thing everyone can say about Trump, it's "this guy isn't on my side".
It just takes longer and comes as more of a surprise to some than others.
Oh look, subverting a message of peace and love with one of violence and hatred created a monster, how shocking.
I mean, every Satanist is also a Christian in a way.
Modern satanists don't believe in Satan or Jesus
"Jews" for Jesus and Messianic "Judaism" were invented to lure Jews into Christianity. They are Christians who want to be quirky.
Jesus intended his movement to be for Jews, as a Jewish reformation of their own faith. Paul was the one that changed it and made it for gentiles.
Jesus seemingly believed himself to be a prophet. He titles himself "son of man" which God called the prophet Jeremiah, and he says "a prophet is not welcome in his hometown" when he went home and no one took him seriously. He was mislabeled, and only the gospel written over a hundred years after (John) made him out to be literally God. Nowhere in the first and oldest (Mark) does he ever make any claims of the sort.
Paul was likely a Roman plant (he was Herodian, and converted suspiciously quickly while simultaneously preaching contradictory messages compared to Jesus.) So his attempts to keep the movement alive were focused primarily on outsiders, since it was clear that the Jewish people weren't convinced and converting to "the way" in significant numbers.
Funny that, the people who are literally from the place where it happened don't consider it to be true but a metric fuck ton of people who got second or third hand accounts do. Hmmm... If that was anything but Christianity, Christians would be able to see the flaw in that a mile away.
There is still hope that those pastors get smart and actually voice against Trump. From a Christian perspective, Trump leaves a lot to be desired. Just point out a sin or two of the orange-haired idiot in each of your weekly sermons to make the congregation see the light. You will not run out of fresh sins until the next decade.
I don't think so. The flock will migrate to a different church more in tune with what they want to believe.
Jesus was a Jew.
say this to some christians and watch their brains melt.
Nope.
Had a couple of conversations with randoms about this. They know and don't care. I guess Jesus is "one of the good ones".
Protip: Jews for Jesus aren't Jews, I hope I've cleared that up for anyone still confused.
I misread that as Jaws for jesus and now i'm oddly disappointed
Evangelists?
Christians lost the plot long long ago.
supply-side jesus cut out all that empathetic crap