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The word can have swearing but not genderisation which might be offensive (mother) nor allusions to sexual dominance (motherfucker). Nor, other possibly offensive connotations. It seems that the word is commonplace and people won't stop using it, so an alternative to the word may be useful. But the problem with alternatives, is that people might not use them unless they carry a meaning that's attention grabbing in some way, and when it comes to this word it needs to be able to be used in either a serious (non-funny) or comedic way.

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[–] AchillesUltimate@lemy.lol 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you looking for an inoffensive insult?

[–] FUsername@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

...or for an insult so accurately aiming at the person to be insulted like pissing through a key hole from a 11.5 ft distance.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 42 points 1 year ago

Upvoting because this is a a true "no stupid questions" post.

So... I think you need to look into the social and cognitive nature of swear words. Vsauce has a pretty good primer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7dQh8u4Hc

I think you also need to let go of the desire to be better than common culture, and/or the desire to engineer a better culture from an external perspective. People are gross and messy, imprecise and reckless. It's what makes us interesting, motherfucker.

[–] amio@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You want an alternative to "motherfucker" that can't be offensive in any way?

Yeah no. Do you even realize what you are asking?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"Dad"

Literally means the same thing.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've had it with these dad snakes on this dad plane!

... just doesn't have the same punch to it.

[–] OpenStars@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Asking the right questions here!

I have had it with all these doucheshit snakes on this twatboy plane!

(from another comment) just doesn't work...

[–] AmidFuror@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

That's offensive to lesbian couples who used artificial insemination only.

[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't maternal fornicator imply a power imbalance? How about Mutually Consenting Same-Age Peer Fucker?

Peer Fucker has a good mouth feel to it.

[–] slowd0wn@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

‘You fucking donkey’ is a personal favorite

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Mudpuddle"

They posess neither warmth, depth or clarity.

[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That one's really good.

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[–] Yantantethera@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

...just swear all fucking ready.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

You're all a bunch of scuzz-junkin' puppy touchers.

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

Motherfucker, what the motherfucking fuck are you fucking on about?

Are you some kind of fatherfucker with this fatherfucking fuckery?

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • Puppy toucher
  • Scuzz junkie
  • Seat sniffer
  • Lostprophet
  • Arsebagel
  • Enjoyer of Other People's Sheep
  • Soldier of 4chan
  • Doucheballoon
  • His Imperial Knobnobblin, Huffboy Crustmaster Studmuffin of the Lousewortshire¹ Studmuffins
  • Trumpie

¹ Pronounced "Loser"

[–] JAJLWolf@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

Soldier of 4Chan is devastating

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[–] DigitalPaperTrail@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're such a wank-clown. (Among the least common combos.)

[–] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Criminally underutilized

[–] auf@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop insulting him you scum-wit

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now you've gone and done it, you dumb goblin.

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[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You'd think shitwit would be more popular. Unfortunately it's close to "pissshit."

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[–] CaptObvious 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Asshole” is a personal favorite.

[–] ProxyZeus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Nailed it on the head

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Well there's always the simplification to just fucker

[–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

parent shagger?

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think the more "valued" or preferred part of an insult is rather its phonetic or expressive aspect rather than the semantic one. Of course the semantic parts plays a role, as well, but the need to use stressed syllables to express oneself, or simply vent out the emotion, far surpasses the need to utter a semantically-accurate syllable or word to badmouth someone or something.

See here from Monty Python and the Holy Grail

It is a beautiful insult that can vent out the emotions, or can be used for fun among friends etc. that uses no semantics to insult people, but uses very mouthful words to stress and some unfocused (as in not targeting any types of people) pragmatics, like insulting someone by insulting their parents, and insulting them as such making them out to be not something they are (was an x, smelt).

So, whatever semantically gender-neutral alternative you are looking for, consider to have a very strong expressive aspect to it that sticks to tongue.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

How about DGR Dave’s “son of a butt”?

[–] nhowell77@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm good with sticking with plain old motherfucker and have absolutely zero intention of replacing it with some convoluted bullshit alternative. I figure if he/she/it/they/them are offended by my use of the word motherfucker then it's aimed at he/she/it/they/them anyway and all those motherfuckers can get fucked and stay fucked. Tired of catering to everyone's sensibilities. Grow a pair, or a twat, put on your grown up panties and get the fuck over it.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

is this a joke

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Mother/father is inclusive and a drop-in replacement at least syllable-wise.

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[–] itsyourmom@artemis.camp 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I go with the “MOFO” is shorter to type and hits the same.

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[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] vivavideri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I use buttfuck/buttfuckin' an awful lot as an adjective but not really as a noun. Come to think of it, I don't often -- oh, no, wait, when my cats are being unreasonable we do call them little assholes, but swearing at them turns it into a term of endearment anyway.

Dipshit, wanker, buttnugget, cunt, probably my top go-tos lol. I kind of love how some people just hate the word cunt.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Misterfalcon

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How is that pronounced? Like joun, like John, or like drawn but with a j?

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[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Jawn and motherfucker are probably the only 2 words I could consider to be general purpose nouns that can be used to refer to pretty much any person place or thing.

I feel like in the case of MF though, vulgarity is kind of the point, it's meant to be insulting, whether seriously or playfully. Jawn doesn't really have that same negative connotation, so it sort of falls short on that count.

And of course motherfucker has added utility as an adjective by swapping in the -ing suffix. You can have a motherfucking jawn, but you wouldn't normally have a jawning motherfucker.

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