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[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 122 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know. Selling out on the one thing that made you stand out as a company? Sounds like a smart business decision to me.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Someone had to follow in Musks shoes.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting selling out wasn't a thing before Musk turned up?

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

It wasn't my intention but I can see your point.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 111 points 11 months ago

Capitalism is why we can’t have nice things. Infinite growth just ends up destroying everything.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 104 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Our current strategy is making us worth a ton of money, so let's change strategies to what all the companies that are losing are doing instead, so we can make money?

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

It's called cashing out, and it's a smart thing to do when you want to maximize profits (to the detriment of the art).

[–] kibiz0r@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Taking money from Wall Street is like taking money from the mob.

[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

Honestly I find the mob are honest upfront at least about what will happen to you if you piss them off.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

I see you haven’t sorted out your pension yet

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

Line must go up, forever, no creativity, just line

[–] canthidium@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

I really hope they don't abandon what made them great. They've become my favorite studio. Almost every movie they put out, I absolutely love or can at least appreciate the big swing. Movies like Lamb don't get made by any other studio and still be able to be seen by most. I don't understand this decision after how Everything Everywhere All at Once was received.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

It's a very good showdy

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago

SPOILER: Private Equity is POISON.

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 20 points 11 months ago

Ah fuck. Hazbin Hotel is being produced by A24.

Guess we can kiss that quality goodbye.

[–] WhipTheLlama@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why would they have to keep up with their appraisal? There is no downside to not doing it, other than not being worth as much if they want to sell or IPO, but that would be true even without the equity firm's investment and appraisal. No law says they have to meet the expectations set by a single investor. There is no legal duty requiring a company to maximize profits or shareholder value.

However, even if such a law requiring them to maximize profits existed, it's very reasonable that they would legally continue making the same types of movies that earned them that value in the first place. There couldn't possibly be a requirement for them to change business strategies, else every company would eventually all end up in the same, most profitable industry. They'd all be selling movie theatre popcorn or something.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Because if they don't the PE firm either cancels bonuses for sr management or fires them outright.

You can't beat your boss.

[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Laws? What the fuck are you talking about? You're right in that their hand isn't forced when making a business transaction such as this, but looking at it through the childish lens of "laws" is odd to say the least.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's really simple to see why.

From here, cross referenced with boxofficemojo.com:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A24_films (2020s only)

First Cow - $101,068 (US) / $1,386,609 (global)
Boy's State - unlisted
On The Rocks - - / $992,103
Saint Maud - - / $1,383,868
Minari - $3,110,580 / $15,282,731
False Positive - unlisted
Zola - $4,844,399 / $4,998,097
Val - unlisted
The Green Knight - $17,173,321 / $18,887,953
Lamb - $2,676,410 / $3,189,087
The Souvenir Part 2 - $98,929 / $380,778
C'mon, C'mon - $1,863,674 / $4,499,395
The Humans - - / $47,029
Red Rocket - $1,023,086 / $2,315,997
The Tragedy of Macbeth - - / $524,771
The Sky is Everywhere - unlisted
After Yang - $46,872 / $729,254
X - $11,765,309 / $14,740,889
Everything, Everywhere, All At Once - $77,191,785 / $141,129,020
Men - $7,587,853 / $11,152,071
Elizabeth: A Portrait in Parts - - / $122,390 Marcel, the Shell with Shoes On - $6,333,702 / $6,909,209
Bodies Bodies Bodies - $11,446,602 / $13,929,670
Funny Pages - $0 / $0 (not unlisted)
Pearl - $9,423,445 / $9,747,742
Instinct - - / $947,316
God's Creatures - $45,849 / $275,107
Stars at Noon - - / $225,509
Aftersun - $1,658,790 / $8,345,462
Causeway - unlisted
The Inspection - $390,429 / $546,906
White Noise - - / $71,728
The Eternal Daughter - $86,490 / $446,551
The Whale - $17,463,630 / $54,883,206
This Place Rules - unlisted
When You Finish Saving the World - $196,920 / -
Close - $1,100,113 / $5,213,591
Sharper - unlisted
Pi - (re-release) - no current numbers
Showing Up - $754,483 / $1,222,428
Beau is Afraid - $8,176,562 / $11,480,078
You Hurt My Feelings - $4,830,788 / $5,698,637
Past Lives - $10,923,569 / $14,996,172
Earth Mama - $0 / $0 (not unlisted)
The Deepest Breath - unlisted
Stephen Curry: Underrated - unlisted
Talk to Me - $48,105,234 / $89,400,384
Medusa Deluxe - - / $68,560
Stop Making Sense - (re-release) $4,000,378 / $4,641,772
Dicks: The Musical - $220,867 / -

[–] b000urns@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

what is this meant to illustrate exactly?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That Everything Everywhere All At Once, the most action oriented and commercial of their releases, made more money than virtually all their other releases COMBINED.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, because that's what all the reviews were raving about - the action. Not plot, characters, acting, or any of that artsy stuff.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don't get how Hollywood executives work. They see Barbie being a massive success because people thought it was a smart and funny movie with a good message and decide, "this means we need more movies about Mattel toys!"

They have absolutely no understanding of movies. It sort of feels like a lot of them don't even like movies.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

They like hookers and blow. No time for movies.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I haven’t heard of ANY of those movies. I really need to get out more.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, surely you would have heard of Everything Everywhere All At Once due to the Oscar wins.

Around here at least both The Green Knight and Marcel the Shell With Shoes On were heavily advertised. So was First Cow now that I think about it.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Same with the Brendan Fraser comeback story The Whale.

[–] fiendishplan@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I seriously thought this was a gag at first, sad.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Is that the company that Kane Parsons is working with?