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[–] J92@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh man, how good would it have been if Lex Luthor was the one claiming he was fighting for truth, justice and the American way in the latest film.

(Apologies if he does, I've not seen it yet, just the outraged responses.)

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Been a while since I've seen any Superman, but I'm pretty sure a major part of Lex Luthor's character is he's selfish, but he also thinks he's helping humanity by trying to get rid of Superman.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yep he's an asshole but the entire point of what he does is that Superman can just turn bad at any moment and humanity will immediately lose so he is trying to take him out before that happens.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

His fellow billionaire Bruce Wayne has multiple contingency plans for just such an occasion. Imagine if Lex found that out and managed to get into Batman's files.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

some versions have him as extremely intelligent but completely selfish.

others (sometimes) have him as extremely intelligent and selfless, and her considers superman a threat.

[–] eva_sieve@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

All Star Superman has a quite succinct rebuttal to Lex Luthor as a character:

"I could have made everyone see! I could have saved the world if it wasn't for you!"

"You could have saved the world years ago if it mattered to you, Luthor."

(I think the book is the superior version, but I do love that the movie adds a sincere "you're right" from Lex in this scene).

movie spoiler ish, not even a minor one

It would have fit perfectly with his character in the movie, and it would be amazing if he said that, but he's didn't.

[–] opus86@lemmy.today 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I have no idea how this narrative that it's the immigrants that are the problem, so we throw them all out, is working on people. I don't know how the idea of putting them in off-shore prisons without trials is working with people. The entire idea is costly and completely fucked. That karma is coming back on all of us.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 days ago

Racism. You know the thing that the US was founded on.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The only thought process I have seen is that “The rules are that you have to follow the process. You can’t just come here for economic opportunity without getting permission. Every country works this way.”

There’s no thought process behind what actual harm is caused. It’s a mental centering on Rules. They refuse to dive behind why they respect those rules, and why they’re okay ignoring those rules for Europeans, because the answer is just Racism.

Yet these same people expect to be let off with a warning when stopped for speeding. Rules for me, not for thee.

Creating in groups and outgroups.

why fix real problems you are profiting from if you can blame an innocent powerless minority.

worst that'll happen is you eradicate them, but then you just gotta point the blame to the next minority.

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is true throughout history. Hard times? Blame the immigrants!

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 2 days ago

Our death and misery machine was working just fine! Until, you people showed up.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Cartoon villains keep getting more and more ~~un~~realistic.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

I've seen One Piece villians less sadistic than this administration.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

technically superman wasnt born until the pod opened so hes actually a naturalized citizen!

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 5 points 2 days ago

Take a hike, John Byrne! And take your white Vision with you!

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Is that canon? Was he sent as an embryo or something?

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

As I understand it, there was one timeline in the nineties where he came in a "birthing pod", just so he'd be born in the US. That's been changed again since; aside from that weirdness, he's always been an immigrant.

Which makes sense - wasn't his concept conceived by two Jewish immigrants who wanted to give their spin on what an actual Übermensch would be like, as opposed to what Nazi Germany was putting out? Pretty sure that's how he got his name...

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 5 points 2 days ago

I mean, yeah, it kinda detracts from his whole backstory. Especially if the whole reason was just to be able to say "See? He's totally American by birthright!".

The whole point was that shit shouldn't be important.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the 1986 post-crisis reboot his ship was an artificial womb and he was born on Earth. That was retconned again in the 2000s, though.

Glad it was retconed, Hate the concept is a vagina space ship bringing superman

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not in any continuity I'm aware of. They almost always show infant Kal-El being placed in the ship. My memory of Man of Steel is fuzzy so maybe that?

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My knowledge of Superman is very basic, but I always had that image of him being placed in the pod as a baby.

Of course there must be like 40 retellings of that scene at this point if we count all media.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Dude, spoilers.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Finally, a non-woke version of Superman!

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

non woke superman

See, he's sleepy

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think that's Bruce Wayne in the bed.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

That would make more sense, unless Clark Kent is somehow kissing himself.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know what's woke? coffee.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

MAGA Superman (and others):

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

It would have been more realistic to name him Jeff Luthor.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But Lex Luthor was supposed to be brilliant.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The concept of Luthor is smart. He didn't always have smart writers.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We need a Batman with prep time to take down ~~Musk~~Luthor

this batman counts?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So. I just learned Musk is bald.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Pre- hair plugs: