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The team behind “Superman” is responding to the backlash after director James Gunn said the DC tentpole is the story of “an immigrant that came from other places.”

When asked about the reaction to his comments, James Gunn explained that the movie is for “everyone” and that he doesn’t have “anything to say to anybody” spreading negativity around “Superman.”

“I’m not here to judge people,” he told Variety at Monday night’s “Superman” premiere at Hollywood’s TCL Chinese Theatre. “I think this is a movie about kindness and I think that’s something everyone can relate to.”

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean he was literally created by Jews during the time of Hitler as an inversion of the Nazi ideal of a "super man" who would go around beating up Nazis. His origin story is basically just space Moses, and his Kryptonian name "Kal-El" is formatted like the name of an angel, containing the name "El" meaning "God" (compare MichaEL, GabriEL etc.) Superman has been anti-fascist and pro-minority since his inception.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Nobody cares about objective reality anymore. Once we started letting people live in their own worlds of "feel facts" without consequence, lest someone throw stones at our own escapism cognitive biases, we ceded control of the world to the loudest and most hateful people.

There is no convincing people of anything anymore because they can just close their ears and go somewhere more comfortable. If they face no repercussions and can not only get praise for being hateful but even raise money and become celebrities, what do we really think is going to result from explaining things anymore?

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 332 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (28 children)

I mean... He's literally an alien that came here illegally.

Is MAGA stupid? Don't answer that, it was rhetorical.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 98 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Asmongold. Enough said. Also, most conservative men are opposed to bathing. Something something washing assholes is gay.

They are stupid, useless, and gross.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 68 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You mean the guy who lives like a pig and has cockroaches climbing on his shirt while live streaming his newest rage fit should not be listened to?

Seriously, what is wrong with his viewers? The content is shit brought to them by someone living in his own literal shit.

[–] jonesy@aussie.zone 42 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I thought you were exaggerating so I googled it and what the fuck man.

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't understand why anybody watches a dude who lives in filth and go, "Ah yeah this guy has good opinions on things!"

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 30 points 4 days ago

Those people usually see him and think "He's just like me!"

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[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 81 points 4 days ago

Bible: "Jesus says to love your neighbor."

MAGA: "Why do you have to make it political?!"

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

“We don’t go to the movie theater to be lectured to and to have somebody throw their ideology onto us.” Jesse Watters added

People like him is why AI slop movies are going to be successful. They just want to watch pretty pictures and see the American flag waving at the end, not be intellectually challenged and entertained.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 111 points 3 days ago (2 children)

From a 1949 book cover distributed to schools by DC.

MAGA is basically opposed to truth, justice, and the American way, aren't they?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

America has two souls battling and it always has. It's Paine and Franklin vs the southern founders. It's Jefferson vs himself. One soul says we're a nation built on the idea that all people are created equal, with fundamental rights, and that government should be more controlled than the citizens. The other soul looks at a nation founded by genocide and slavery, with early settlers being the puritans after they lost power in the UK and think that's what they think America should be.

Each side considers the other un-American because we want different Americas

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (3 children)

How could someone take umbrage there? Like... read his origin story. He was born on Krypton. He got dropped on Earth. He was adopted by folks in Kansas. If I told people I found a child who drifted across the Rio Grande and adopted him as my own, we'd all agree he was probably from Mexico and not a native born citizen. But apparently him drifting in from SPACE changes the narrative?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hmm, an endangered child's parents send him in a craft to be found and adopted by others, assuring his safety. You'd think that would resonate with MAGA Evangelicals, who should recognize the story of Moses.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Bold of you to think they read any part of the bible except the ones they can twist for the sake of hatred.

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[–] jorymo@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

But he's a white space alien

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Dude is from another planet but magat get upset he is called an immigrant.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 78 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Conservatives unable to grasp basic plot points of a story thats been around nearly 100 years. Color me unsurprised.

they don't get Jesus message, even though they say Jesus is the most important thing in their lives.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 21 points 3 days ago

"When did Star Wars become woke?!"

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

zack Snyder has made people forget that superman is supposed to be likeable and do good things for the sake of it

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But he's white! How can he be an immigrant!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Shame they did stick with a white actor. Imagine the chuds losing their minds over a Superman played by Pedro Pascal or Michael B. Jordan.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 36 points 3 days ago

All these things haven't suddenly become woke, YOU JUST BECAME A RACIST BIGOTED XENOPHOBIC ASSHOLE!!! AKA MAGA.

[–] PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world 105 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Everything upsets MAGA. They’re petulant children in desperate need of a nap. Sadly, they are using that energy to ruin lives, and destroy a country.

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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 58 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well, Superman is an illegal immigrant. I don't think they have a US consulate in Kypton.

[–] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't think they have much on Krypton anymore.

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Does that make him a refugee?

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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago (6 children)

But they’re explaining only half of the plot an illegal alien is assimilating and it’s making a specific billionaire very upset he can’t continue to exploit his people

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[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 4 days ago (16 children)

How can you not know Superman's origin story? Apart from the comics its been retold in every major movie version too. He literally is and always was (weird retcons aside) an immigrant.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

Excuse me ~~Jesus~~Superman is white, therefore American!

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 22 points 4 days ago

A literal alien.

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[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How dare we suggest that Superman doesn't reflect the full Aryan image? Sorry, I misspelled MAGA

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[–] Sickday@kbin.earth 71 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I hate the director for deciding to associate a fictional character with societal issues.

Has there been any movie where fictional characters aren't associated with societal issues? I ask because I'm pretty sure every single movie does this.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I have more than a few things to say to the face of those people.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

MAGA Outrage Over Director Saying Superman Is an Immigrant

(We're about a decade too late, and our engorged trolls are now our leaders, but still...)

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't there a comic where Superman renounces his US citizenship ?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Action Comics #900

The Man of Steel’s declaration, “I’m tired of having my actions construed as instruments of U.S. policy,” follows accusations that he caused an international incident in Tehran. Superman flew to the country during a huge protest, where he stood silent for one day, to show his support for the demonstrators. The 24 hours pass with a mix of appreciation (flowers and flags) and fear (hurled Molotov cocktails). But the government of Iran sees Superman as an agent of the United States and feels his action is an act of war. “Truth, justice and the American way – it’s not enough anymore,” Superman tells the president’s national security adviser. “The world’s too small. Too connected.” He then makes the decision to go before the United Nations and renounce his American citizenship.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Party of "fuck your feelings" huh? MAGA biggest cry babies out there. Guess it makes sense.

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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 33 points 4 days ago

They really do live in their own little bubble huh? Like dude is a literal alien, and they think he is a home grown hero.

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

DCU heads in their best J. Jonah Jameson voice:

FIND ME A SINGLE TWEET THAT MAKES A CONTROVERSY OF THIS MOVIE!! WE NEED FREE PUBLICITY DAMMIT!!! IT WORKED FOR DISNEY, IT WILL WORK FOR US!! GET ME ~~THOSE PICTURES~~ THAT TWEET!!!!

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can't help but feel like when Hollywood switched to ME villains instead of nazis, it really had a large sociological effect.

Not that it was intentional propaganda, just that 20 years of "anything to stop poor brown people in the desert" had an effect different than "anything to stop the genocidal fascists".

[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (4 children)

It's because the scary Boogeyman has to be relevant. USA needed people to get onboard with current wars, not old wars.

There were also plenty of movies about the scary Russians too in that specific political time.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They were hoping to see a movie about the Ubermensch, not this woke comic book fake news!

Nah jk they don't read.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 22 points 3 days ago (9 children)

They don't want Superman; they want Homelander.

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