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[–] Waldschrat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Now do another 10 or 20 parties more and maybe america could finally become a democratic country.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Need a weaker executive branch too

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm just shocked it's not the X Party.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

I was rooting for Lemon Party.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Split the Republican party bro. That'll really own the libs.

[–] FearMeAndDecay 3 points 23 hours ago

Bro as a lefty I’m so scared of this America Party bro. Like we really won’t be able to beat them frfr. If republicans have the Trump Party and the America Party it’ll be like they’re twice as strong. They definitely won’t just start taking sides and splitting the vote so that their already fake “majority” completely falls apart. And the muskrat definitely wouldn’t be dumb enough to try to rig an election so his puppet candidate beats a Trump Party candidate prompting Dump or SCOTUS to crack down on election rigging. That would never in a million years happen bc the America Party is gonna totally be the people’s party bro

/s just in case

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nazis. They're Nazis. This is Nazis.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago

It's Musk so he'll probably rebrand them as NaXis.

Maybe enough MAGAts will join him that it will split the vote and it will get easier to get people with basic human decency elected. That is assuming we continue to have elections.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The only good thing of that is that the otherwise shitty FPTP system will make him and Trump go for each others throat.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just want to remind anyone thinking that this is a good thing because it will siphon off voters from the Republican Party - Elon Musk is only doing this because Trump cut the EV mandate from the Big Bullshit Bill and didn't appoint his guy to NASA. No matter what he says about spending or debt ceilings, he doesn't care about any of it and was in the loop the entire time that legislation was being crafted. He's still only in this for himself, just as he was when he gleefully threw a Nazi salute on stage thinking he just got everything he could ever want when he bought the president his office.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He can be in it for himself, and it can still be a good thing for us

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure, that's fine, I just don't want people to lose sight of the bigger picture here. Musk is not an altruist. He's not the good guy all of a sudden. He didn't grow a conscience after falling out with Trump.

If this political party ever gets off the ground, which it probably won't, Musk will always have a controlling interest in it. He will never ever let the party move away from enabling and enacting his agenda, and his alone. He doesn't give a single shit or a wipe about helping Americans. He wants to protect his fortune by taking control of the government apparatus to end regulations or investigations that impede the companies he is in charge of. That's it.

I certainly hope that Democrats will see this for the nakedly transparent political maneuver that it is, and not get swept up in the idea of a 3rd party founded and controlled by a billionaire will bring any kind of meaningful change to the system. And I believe they will - we rejected Bloomberg and Steyer in 2020 because they were out-of-touch billionaires who tried to buy their way into the party, and I think that Democrats are not so easily fooled by the obvious bad faith rich cunts who try to buy their way into the public zeitgeist. I just worry that people will see this move by Musk as "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and shift closer to his values as a result. He might be the enemy of your enemy, but he's still an an enemy as far as I'm concerned.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Nobody who actually cares about others thinks Musk is the good guy. This is strictly an evil vs. evil situation.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

This isn’t what anyone is celebrating.

They don’t think for a second that Musk will do anything positive.

What they’re hoping for is republicans to split somewhere near the middle, some in support of MAGAts and some in support of Musk, which could lead to more people voting for a democrat than a republican. Votes that would have gone toward a MAGAt will go to Musk. That is the prayer.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

As much as I fucking hate Musk, he does understand two things:

  1. EVs will never be the mainstream without federal and state project support
  2. Funneling money from the government to billionaires is the worst thing for an economy

What I find fucking mind-blowing is that this idiot is selling a shoddy EV and solar product at premium costs to other idiots, but very much aligned with Democrats on the two points above. Not only did he back the wrong horse, he straight up accidentally got on the wrong horse, and rode it threw towns away from where he was living very comfortably.

Now this fucking moron needs to invent new ways to make Tesla appealing to the "normies" because nobody is buying his bullshit stalling tactics or premium pricing for sub-par products.

I've got my popcorn ready, but the siphoning of votes away from Trump is just the butter on top.

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I dont see how you can draw that conclusion for item 2. He claims to care about the deficit, not funelling money to billionaires. Belive me, he would have you living under a bridge eating gruel before he would touch anything that affects his wealth.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not sure I agree with point #2 - I'd be willing to bet he would love to funnel some of that sweet tax money into his own pocket, but he doesn't want it in the form of tax breaks for income earners, he wants it in the form of EV subsidies for Tesla, which Trump denied him by cutting the EV tax incentive from the spending bill. I don't think he even acknowledges that tax breaks for billionaires are bad for the economy, just that the big bullshit bill is bad for him specifically.

On everything else, though, I agree wholeheartedly. His brand is toxic now, and without being able to sell a sub-par product at dirt-cheap prices, he's going to get a heavy dose of reality when consumers reject his rolling coffins in favor of cheaper alternatives.

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[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)
  1. EVs will never be the mainstream without federal and state project support

in not sure about that… imo EVs would be relatively comparable if ICE vehicles and oil didn’t have massive subsidies at every stage from governments.. more if negative externalities were properly accounted for

or maybe not: in australia we have a fuel excise and EV credit and they’re still pretty expensive relative to ICE

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

I think total cost of ownership is lower for EVs for people that have reasonable electricity rates and can charge at home, but that's a tougher sell and most people aren't even sure that it will work out unless they try it.

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know you meant internal combustion engine, but it gave me a pause because I thought you were talking about ice agents

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I hope this becomes big enough to split the right-wing vote. I wish him all the success possible.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Well not all the success possible...

[–] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Until right before the election he concedes and his voters go republican.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Doesn't seem terribly likely to me for Musk to concede before the election. There's still something to gain from it being public knowledge how many voted for you last election. This did happen recently in BC, Canada though, where the established conservatives bowed out at the last minute to give votes to the new far-right party.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How many weeks before he gets bored and abandons it when things don’t immediately work, just like everything else in his useless life?

[–] match@pawb.social 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

unlike rockets or cars, political party success in America is measured in dollars

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He already bought himself an entire department with no oversight but got bored of it after a few months.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

The neo-Nazi saluting bastard wants a political party? F-him and strip him of US citizenship for illegally working in the USA.

If anyone has a chance to create another party. AOC and Mamdani.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Has he filed any paperwork? Gathered any signatures?

Didn't think so. It's just typical Elmo Skum: hurricane force hot air scented with billionaire quantities of bovine effluvia.

What could go wrong?

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I fail to see how splitting up the fascists is anything but a good thing. Let them fight.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, this seems like it may actually be some good news in this endless sea of shit we've been in. But the chances of it actually going anywhere are pretty slim.

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[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A white South African dude created the American Party

ffs did somebody step on a bug in 2015 and change the whole timeline?

[–] excral@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is there anything more American than aliens claiming to be the true Americans?

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[–] markstos@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m sure Tesla shareholders are happy to hear he’s picked up another side project.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope that he sloughs off enough support from the Geronocrats and Turdpublicans to give the Progressive movement a chance to become mainstream. In a battle between four armies, I think AOC would win.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

An AOC/Sanders ticket is starting to make sense, aside from Bernie's age.

Harris needs to stay away from this next race.

Newsom is a fucking snake, and I wouldn't for him to be prez.

Whitmer and Gillibrand both just did a fast turn to fascistic and racist bullshit.

Pritzker is a billionaire, but says the right things.

If Mamdani does great shit really fast, he could be a VP pick in 2032, but he needs to prove some shit and can't be president.

I just feel like the field is pretty limited right now. We don't have all the good ideas at all the right times from any candidates, but we have the best ideas right now through just a few people. Voters are desperate to displace all this bullshit that is happening right now, and we just need a better crop of candidates overall. This isn't even on the left, but the right leaning people need to get some sane fucking choices back as well.

[–] SuperZorro@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

Mamdani is foreign born as I understand it 😭

[–] Ferroto@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Wow this might just turn Elon Musk into a millionaire.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I hope this would split the vote among magas and republicans and the dems would be a shoe in. Sadly, I've lost a lot of faith in the dems and their ability to effectively fight for the people. Maybe we need even more parties?

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

It could give progressive and younger democrats a decent foothold.

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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 188 points 2 days ago (7 children)

"America Party"

Americans really are the ultimate parody of themselves. Have fun with your civil war.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 119 points 2 days ago

The "America Party", started by a Nazi African. What a wild thing.

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