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They said anti-hero.
Bojack Horseman.
He’s such a terrible person but idk i love watching him and I root for him especially later seasons.
I'm not sure how long this will last, but I've still not forgiven Netflix for forcing the ending to be rushed. The last season should have been at least two seasons.
Shut up baby, I know it!
Iirc, the original definition of an antihero didn't mean a bad guy you root for. It meant a hero in the story that didnt embody the traditional heroic traits of courage, strength, faith in God, noble morality, etc. The antihero is the hero who is not really heroic - a hero who is kind of just a normal person. An example of this being Don Quixote - a man who spent his time fighting dragons and rescuing princesses only in his imagination.
These days, almost all heros outside children's books are antiheros. Because true heros are flat and one dimensional and unrelatable and don't contribute to an engaging plot. These days, it isn't thrilling enough for us to hear how the knight slew the dragon. He must first overcome... I dunno, his childhood trauma or something.... And then he can slay the dragon!
I just recently started Don Quixote and have only just made it into part 2, but he doesn't really strike me as a hero. Maybe in his own head he thinks so. He's certainly the protagonist, but from what i've read so far, he's been rather antagonistic towards the people he interacts with.
>does good things for bad reasons
>gluttony is considered by many to be bad
kirby. kirby is my favorite antihero
To be fair, after the swallowing he sometimes puke. It's not a total sin, but just a eating disorder.
V from V For Vendetta
Everyone in the Expanse. Naomi, Drummer, Fred Johnson, Bobbie Draper, Chrisjen Avasarala, Monica... Obviously, Amos, Peaches, Miller, and even Holden.
All of them do reprehensible things. Some did them and made up for it. Some still do them to win.
After watching Andor, I guess Luthem Rael fits that title. Dude's absolutely savage. Forced to use the tools of his enemy to fight for freedom that he'll likely never experience. He sacrifices good people on order to protect the whole
It's also established that's he's an accelerationist. He's intentionally baiting the Empire to crackdown more brutally on dissent in an effort to forment rebellion among the common people of the galaxy. He fears that if he does not do this, there will be a day when the Empires grip is too tight to escape.
"It will burn... Very brightly"
In the end, he was right. The Death Star vindicates his methods. Without Luthen laying the groundwork for the Rebel Alliance, the Galaxy would have been a boiling frog and the Death Star would have led to its brutal oppression for generations.
He's absolutely a hero and without him the death star would've probably obliterated the rebellion (if it even existed without him). His methods aren't exactly "good" though from the perspective of good vs evil. As we see with Mon Mothma who is maybe a bit naïve and definitely doesn't approve of his methods. But I think a rebellion needs a Luthen. He knows he'll be hated by pretty much everyone, but in the end he managed to get so much done. He's the fall guy so the formal rebellion doesn't have to get their hands dirty.
Riddick
Leto II. Deadpool was already taken, so I went with a more controversial example.
McNulty
Vegeta. Fun character.
Vegeta embodies the rage that all of us feel and has one of the best character arcs of all time IMO.
he had his entire life stolen from him by the monster that took him in, not out of pittance, but out of a sick sense of entertainment.
he then spent the next 20-ish years trying to become stronger to complete his desire for vengeance, and even then he wasn't enough.
he literally had everything stolen from him. beaten from him. was mocked relentlessly because of who and what he is. they took everything but one thing. That one thing that could never be taken from him. His pride.
I learned so much about myself as a person as I watched his character develop. I keep a figure of him on my desk to remind myself of how far I have come and to protect my pride.
he is, by far, one of the most influential characters in my entire life.
Add the fact that he becomes a decent family man and you have one heck of an arc.
There's a hilarious canon scene where Vegeta proves to be a better dad than Goku (granted that doesn't take much)
yeah...Goku really is a piece of shit dad.
Deadpool.
I've got to go with a classic in Tony Soprano. He's a real piece of shit, and yet I can't look away.
No mention of The Punisher?
I think he has an automatic negative connotation just because of his many cops etc idolize him, but he's a fantastic character. In the (Uhh I think) daredevil show and comic he knocked DD out, chained him up with a revolver, and said shoot me or I will assassinate this bad guy. Like "you wanna do the 'killing is wrong' shtick? Welcome to my trolley problem, bitch."
many cops etc idolize him
Which is ironic, considering what he really stands for.
Netflix's version portrayed by Jon Bernthal is trully amazing
Captain James Flint from Black Sails
Black Adam
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