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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

good, now it can go fuck itself without google's interference

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 hours ago

While continuing to use their own proxies to send your data to google.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

Is Brave browser the cryptocoin crap browser? I think I've used it for a short time about 2 years ago, before moving to Vivaldi and later Firefox.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago

Cool I guess. But I still find Brave to be a sketchy organization with how they have done some of their schemes to make money over the years. So will continue to avoid anything they make.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 hours ago

Firefox can be installed from Mozilla and managed by Obtainium. Much better option all the way around.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 88 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Go ahead all you want. I'll never install Brave because it's chromium based and because of their leadership and their choices.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

What do you use? I struggle to not have at least one chromium variant installed for work purposes - I feel like half my jobs' apps or sites don't work in Firefox.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago

graphene os + vanadium is secure and private. Still chromium based though.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I have ungoogled-chromium installed just in case, but have yet to actually require it.

[–] scintilla@beehaw.org 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If you have to use something chromium based just use chromium or Vivaldi if you like something more customized.

At least ime they both work fine. but no one can really tell you what you should use. I avoid brave hard because I trust Peter Theil less than I would trust an addict to give me back the 100$ I loaned them.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

I currently use Vivaldi but I guess I was getting the impression that using chromium in any form was a no-no.

[–] Dhs92@programming.dev 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Sadly it seems to be a JavaScript or CSS engine issue :(

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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 31 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

i used this piece of crap on windows, and theres always a small brave.exe running in the background even when you disable background running. i have no abiloty to prove its spyware, but doesnt strike confidence.

also we have cromite, librewolf, ironfox, why would i install this crap?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 9 points 21 hours ago

probably an update service. all browsers do it on windows because the os doesn't handle updates.

[–] Pro@programming.dev 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

LibreWolf does not exist on Android?

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

Iron fox is great.

Was my first impression.

However, it is maybe a bit excessively prohibitive in it's attempts to provide privacy/security.

And there are a few issues that leave some privacy options wide open for some reason.

To the 1st point, they use a couple dozen different blocklists, using uBlock. Those default lists block sites that can test your browser for security and privacy vulnerability. Eg one of the most used and ubiquitous sites: browserleaks.org is blocked.

Which brings me to 2nd point.

I always check webrtc for leaks. In Mozilla/Firefox builds that is media.peerconnection.enabled in about:config.
In the plethora of blocklists used by ironfox two are conspicuously left unchecked: block webrtc and unbreak webrtc.
And, for whatever reasoning, in about config, yep, peerconnection is enabled. As is webgl.

Maybe I don't get out much, but I have never experienced an issue with any website that required webrtc, webgl, or wrbgpu be enabled. (They are each significant attack surfaces and each leak data you didn't know was being leaked)

I'm not using iron fox to use teams or make a video call. There is zero reason for it.

And blocking sites that check these has me maybe a little cautious on it really being the thing it says it is.

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[–] Peasley@lemmy.world 125 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

YSK: Brendan Eich left Mozilla over his own homophobic beliefs. He is also a coronavirus denier.

1000038771

Brave is homophobic Chrome with crypto on top

Fuck Brave. Just use Firefox.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

That's not even the full extent of his homophobia. He also made donations to a politician who said that AIDS is a great thing and will purge the world of gay people.

He also gave an interview about the whole being pressured to leave Mozilla thing, and said he was disappointed in how intolerant of his beliefs Mozilla staff were once they became public knowledge.

Yes, you read that right, a man who wanted to strip gay people of their rights cried about fucking intolerance towards him. Clown.

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 29 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

And they tried to steal money while claiming it was donations for content creators.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

Yes, honestly the most damning thing they've done, selling out their own users

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago

I could hate JavaScript for free, I'm very thankful Brendan gave me an extra reason

[–] portside@monyet.cc 30 points 1 day ago

I never liked Brave tbh, something about it felt sketchy with all the crypto stuff

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

And he inflicted JavaScript upon the world, completely wrecking the World Wide Web. Fucker should burn in Hell for that, let alone the other stuff!

[–] calamitycastle@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

A good enough reason to ignore Brave tbqh

[–] nightmare786@leminal.space 11 points 1 day ago

why i use vivaldi

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[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 30 points 1 day ago

Brave has a good marketing team.

[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I gave Brave a try back in the early days. The Brave wallet was useless and something I didn't wanted. There wasn't much to differentiate it from Chrome back then on desktop. On mobile, it has built in Adblock but that's it. Vivaldi, IMO, bundles in more features for a Chromium based browser.

Either case, I have been on Firefox for multiple years now despite it's own issues. uBlock Origin is properly supported on it (both desktop and mobile). I think FF(nightly version or Iceraven, a FF fork) is the only browser that allows sideloading of extensions on mobile. Chromium based browsers are way behind in this regard.

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[–] 68silver@beehaw.org 0 points 11 hours ago

That is great. Been using Brave for years.

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

i used Vivaldi because it's good & has built in adblocker/tracker blocker that i can customize the hell out of it with tons of custom filter

[–] commander@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I wish Firefox would do this. I'm stubbornly always favoring it for a non-Chromium browser

[–] lime@feddit.nu 16 points 21 hours ago

fennec is on f-droid.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

To add to the others, Fennec is a fantastic replacement and has extension support.

Also heard good things about LibreWolf. Mull had some buggy behaviours I couldn't seem to configure away from so I guess YMMV, but that was my experience.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Have you tried Obtanium? Allows to download and update from github, among other sources. There's even a site with source configs that's very helpful, and includes firefox.

https://apps.obtainium.imranr.dev/

Alternatively, Fennec is basically firefox and it's on f-droid.

[–] shaoiken@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

I use IronFox which is on Accresent or hosts it's own F-Droid repository alternatively. To me that's even better than vanilla Firefox on F-Droid.

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