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Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

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[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

You people starting to realize that these 'Democrats' are just in there for the money like Republicans are, you need to clean the party

[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

This, in a nutshell, is what is wrong with the Democratic Party.

If one of these folks is your rep, CALL their office and ask them why they voted to table the impeachment vote, and let them know you're thinking seriously about not casting a vote for them the next time you have the opportunity.

[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Profiles In Cowardice

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AIPAC dark money paying for itself thousands of times over.

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[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Well, obviously. Did everyone just collectively forget that the constitution allows for a president to take military action without congressional approval for 90 days? What he did was clearly the wrong move, but I'm pretty sure it's constitutional. Honestly, the problem is the constitution itself.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

First of all, this is bullshit - every one of the 128 Democrats needs to be primaried out asap. (which of them are up in midterms?)

Second of all, this is another deliberate swipe at AOC and this will not stand, man.

Thirdly - however. We did this with Gee Dubz in early 2000s. Launching a missile strike without Congress' input was already hashed out, and the president can do it. They did it by some bullshit where "going to war" is a whole seal, stamp, and magic incantation hullaballoo. If you remember Hillary voting for the Iraq War II, that was what that was about - they got to a point where Gee Dubz time had run out and he would either have to cut the shit or Congress would have to let him do it. Yes, Dems ate shit back then too, yes. NOT ALL - we had AOCs back then too. But the old ones were "only" sixty back then.

Fourthly - this was never going to go anywhere because we'd need 20 House republiQans to give up their lucrative careers to join in the effort which would then die in the Senate again.

And Lastly - I don't know what 128 Democrats got for what will be costly to them personally, but it was something. Was it worth it? Let's make sure it was not.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

all of them are up in the midterms, these are congressmen, they only serve 2 year terms. fuck them, primary out these asshats.

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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I think your fourth point is what frustrates me the most. This was a symbolic vote and they couldn't even do that.

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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

We’re so fucked.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I'm sorry I know this impeachment is important to all your emotional needs after feeling bullied and all, but it would be extremely helpful to Trump.

Bear with me please. Here's how impeachment actually works:

  1. Trump does something terrible that is extremely unpopular.
  2. Outrage forces Democrats to impeach him.
  3. Because impeachment requires a 2/3 majority, which is literally unobtainable for Democrats even after the midterms, there's absolutely no chance whatsoever he gets convicted, so he wins at the Senate.
  4. Trump declares victory, says the whole thing was a hoax.
  5. (This is the key) Low information voters regard the issue as now settled in Trump's favor.
  6. No one talks about the illegal war, leading the Jan 6 riot, or trying to corruptly shake down Zelensky again, because these are all now worthless as attacks against Trump.

See the last two impeachments. There's no way this works well. American democracy sucks, but realize it's a game. You can't win at poker by playing every hand, no matter how much you deserve to win. Impeachment is a 2-7 off suit. Fold it on sight.

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[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Cowards the lot of them. I'm sure as well having AOC at the forefront the majority of the useless Elissa Slotkin-style useless libs squashed this out of spite

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