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Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry I know this impeachment is important to all your emotional needs after feeling bullied and all, but it would be extremely helpful to Trump.

Bear with me please. Here's how impeachment actually works:

  1. Trump does something terrible that is extremely unpopular.
  2. Outrage forces Democrats to impeach him.
  3. Because impeachment requires a 2/3 majority, which is literally unobtainable for Democrats even after the midterms, there's absolutely no chance whatsoever he gets convicted, so he wins at the Senate.
  4. Trump declares victory, says the whole thing was a hoax.
  5. (This is the key) Low information voters regard the issue as now settled in Trump's favor.
  6. No one talks about the illegal war, leading the Jan 6 riot, or trying to corruptly shake down Zelensky again, because these are all now worthless as attacks against Trump.

See the last two impeachments. There's no way this works well. American democracy sucks, but realize it's a game. You can't win at poker by playing every hand, no matter how much you deserve to win. Impeachment is a 2-7 off suit. Fold it on sight.

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It most certainly is a game. It's a game where anything is on the table for making sure the bad guys lose.

I would be more willing to accept that this is a good time to fold if the Dems went for the eyes or throat on other occasions. But they do not.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Fair enough, but this is the opposite of going for the eyes and throat. This is attacking Trump where he's least vulnerable. It's an uphill frontal assault on Trump Castle, armed with a nerf gun. The best you can hope for is a valiant effort.

Better option would be they should stop pretending they have power, and go out there in the media and into communities and yell about how Republicans have too much power, and need it taken away.