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[–] Panties@lemmy.ca 195 points 1 day ago (47 children)

No earphone jack again. That's a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It's just a small inconvenience

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Not having a headphone jack is just a slap in the face from a company whose whole image is supposed to be longevity and eco-friendly.

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[–] Laser@feddit.org 57 points 1 day ago (35 children)

I had a phone without before, that one came with a simple cheap passive adapter for USB-C to 3.5mm headset. You lose out on using headphones while charging, but other than that I was never really inconvenienced...

[–] warm@kbin.earth 80 points 1 day ago (16 children)

After having a phone without a 3.5mm port or a microSD card slot, the top 2 features I want on a phone are a 3.5mm port and a microSD card slot.

Shame Sony discontinued their Xperia 5 series, even if they were also excessively priced.

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[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

I would totally buy one of these if they were sold in the US. Sadly, last time I checked the newest phone wasn't sold here. So I doubt this one will be.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You can get them in the U.S. with /e/OS through Murena, but they are $900 :(

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[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (6 children)

I love the idea but the price is too high for the chip given that this is designed to be a longevity phone. A chip like the 7s Gen 3 would make the phone sluggish after a couple of years with how unoptimised todays apps are.

The Gorilla Glass 7i and IP55 water resistance are also concerning given that budget Samsung, Xiaomi, etc phones beat this.

However having components of the phone being easily replacable is a great thing.

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[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If they are all about swappable parts, and being able to upgrade your phone how you want ... Shouldn't this just be a module upgrade... Of the main part? Maybe I don't understand it ... At the very least the old parts should work with the new system right? Unless something major has changed.

[–] ayane@lemmy.vg 31 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Exactly. Framework does it correctly; fairphone does not.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not putting in a 3.5mm jack says enough. They sell Bluetooth earbuds I wouldn't call that "fair". It leads to more landfill. Phones with 3.5mm jacks also have BT, and don't start about USBC singles, that's more to buy and more landfill when they inevitable break.

[–] ayane@lemmy.vg 15 points 1 day ago

I hear you! Though I don't mind the lack of a 3.5 mm jack¹, it is still an anti-feature, and I fully agree that the TWS style of in-ears are antithetical to the repairability ethos. It's especially bad when they sell one themselves.

Until Linux phones reliably support 5G communications with major carriers (this is a kernel driver issue for modems), I'm going to run with my current phone until it crumbles... Or at least until someone comes out with an actual modular phone where the mainboard can just be swapped as with desktops and Framework laptops.

¹I use a very high quality "dongle" DAC (Moonriver 2) and it gives me a cleaner, lower impedance, higher power output than any phone's on-board audio can. If I'm going to be using wired headphones, might as well go all the way.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope my phone lasts until we get a framework phone.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Might be more challenging.

Laptop, its simple, if wifi and bluetooth works, its gonna work around the entire world (it's all standardized).

Phones? I mean the main functions of a phone is phone calls and data use. Every country has different bands, and some carriers/countries have IMEI whitelisting.

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[–] anzo@programming.dev 70 points 1 day ago (17 children)

There's a deGoogled version too!!

I would prefer GrapheneOS (If I can live with the irony of getting a Pixel phone just to deGoogle it...). Sandboxing there is way better. But you lose the Repairability.. Gotta check and compare the new EU metrics too.

They are just two different devices.

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[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (67 children)

Why does The Fairphone (Gen. 6) not have an audio jack?

After some of the criticism that we received about removing the headphone jack from Fairphone 4, we did consider bringing it back for The Fairphone (Gen. 6). However, we realized it would be at the expense of increasing the phone’s dimensions. We also looked into the consumer data and Fairphone 4’s weight and thickness were more of an issue than the lack of a minijack, so we decided to keep the same approach, although it was a difficult decision. We didn’t want to invest in OLED technology for the display and then not have improved the phone’s dimensions and weight. But just like with Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 5, we will still offer an adapter, which has had overall positive user reviews.

"We heard the criticism but decided that no, you would still need an adapter to use headphones, plus a USB-C hub to be able to charge the damn thing while listening to music or watching videos"

Funny how that's the same excuses that we get for modern laptops terrible design. "We HAVE to make it thinner so there's no space! You wouldn't want a laptop that's not complete shit if it meant it'd also be less thin and breakable, now would you?"

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very strange how mine can somehow fit a 7000mAh battery, dual SIM + SD card slot and a regular jack. Hmm...

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is it repairable only with a screwdriver and parts you can buy from the manufacturer?

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[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Interesting that they seem to be using a consumer grade Snapdragon chip this time, typically they used weird chips ment for industry applications if I'm not mistaken. Wonder what sparked the change, did Qualcomm start supporting their chips for longer?

[–] tinsuke@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

Probably yes.

And probably due to EU mandating new phones to be supported for longer.

https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en

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[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It's too bad they dont ship to Canada. I'm in the market for a new phone and would seriously consider this.

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